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Survival Trait | Survival Trait https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1170920#msg1170920
« on: December 13, 2014, 11:09:05 am »
NAME:
Survival Trait
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Spell
TEXT:
Your weakest creature dies. The rest of your creatures in play gain +1|+1
NAME:
Survival Trait
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Spell
TEXT:
Your weakest creature dies. The rest of your creatures in play gain +2|+1

ART:
Treldon - based on this picture
IDEA:
Treldon
NOTES:
  • Weakest: lowest combined HP+ATK
  • In case of equal combined HP+ATK, it selects the one under negative effects (ex poisoned, was lobotomized, delayed)
  • In case of equal combined HP+ATK, and no negative effect / both negatively affected, selects the one towards the edge of the field

Spoiler for Old version:

Update note: Art added
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« Last Edit: January 16, 2015, 08:28:54 am by Treldon »
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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1170921#msg1170921
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2014, 11:14:31 am »
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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1170925#msg1170925
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2014, 11:49:21 am »
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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1170929#msg1170929
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2014, 12:13:05 pm »
See, I see the two cards as being different.  Different enough to know which one I would like to see in the game.

Treldon's card being a spell card means you need to consider carefully when and how you play it.  I also like that the mechanics sit nicely with the theme of the card and with Life as an element.  To me it's a card that makes sense.

I looked at the link Zawadx posted for a similarly named card.  After reading the associated replies to Xenocidius' card (including the original idea linked within post, that was involving mutations) I would have to agree with the other posters who point out that mutations and generating copies become more of an  :entropy or :death related thing.

I like Treldon's card and can see myself using it.  Whilst Xeno's I can't.  I guess I like the fact that you know straight away what the effect is for Treldon's card, you can predict it and be strategic with it.  Xeno's needs some thinking about and you could end up with a collection of somewhat useless creatures, especially if you've been loading them up with adrenaline, or if they are poisoned anyhow.  I don't exactly know what it is, but I just can't quite wrap my head around Xenocidius' card and its effects.
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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1170942#msg1170942
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2014, 01:28:55 pm »
Thanks for the support Aknelo!  :)

But unless it gets lots of similar comments, it will likely fade away like the rest of CIA
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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1170946#msg1170946
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2014, 01:55:53 pm »
Errg. Sac effects are not something I like in my :life.
Why should life really care what lives or dies? It wants everything to live.
I find it really difficult to swallow an element that is based on unchecked growth, killing off its own creatures due to it being weak.

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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1170966#msg1170966
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2014, 04:17:44 pm »
Sacrifice =/= :life
Sacrifice == :death :fire :darkness

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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1174143#msg1174143
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2015, 07:56:01 pm »
This one is cool.  Stresses Life being able to have many creatures, and to be able to benefit from it.  Both grades seem fairly balanced.
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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1174186#msg1174186
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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1174259#msg1174259
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 06:29:58 am »
I like the card a lot more than I like Xenocidius'. That said, while Natural Selection is good, the upped seems more...  :darkness -ish.  Reminds me of a repeatable immo-Eclipse combo. Generally, I don't think sacrifice fits well with Life. Weeding out the weak, sure. Willful sacrifice? Not so much.
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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1174278#msg1174278
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2015, 08:33:42 am »
I didn't think anyone would comment on it after almost a month

For the upped I chose sacrifice for card thematic reason: natural selection does not necessarily produce the outcome you prefer, while artificial one does, thus the stronger effect

For  :life thematic reasons however I have rephrased the upped. OP updated
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Re: Natural Selection | Artificial Selection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57067.msg1174724#msg1174724
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2015, 04:45:13 am »
The best case scenario is that we sacrifice photos (RoL if upped. Great synergy)

2 cards + 3 :life + ? :rainbow to give all your creatures +1/+1 (+2/+1 if upped)

I don't really see this being too powerful unupped since Life's swarm isn't that great, and for 3 :life you'd need at least quite a few creatures on the board for this to be worth it. Looking for balance at the upped version is where it gets more interesting since RoL can act as fodder for both sacrifice as well as Rustler and massive quanta generation. The jump from +1 atk to all your creatures to +2 atk to all your creatures is huge.

 

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