Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower

[casthegamer]

Maybe I'm just used to the basic/special thing 'cause I play Pokemon, but I thought it was rather obvious that this was special and thus bound by normal card limit.

it's obvious because he said it. the card does not imply it. if you can include more than six quantum pillars, there is no reason one wouldn't think the same for this card.

[Arondight]

I like this pillar, it would definitely give a focused increase of synergy between elements. But, by the description, are Towers counted? I'm guessing so, because otherwise there would be a problem with use.

[dragonhuman]

hea already said that if you have a fire pillar, a fire tower, and this out you would get 4 

[Arondight]

hea already said that if you have a fire pillar, a fire tower, and this out you would get 4 

I see that now. Strange effect, though, I wouldn't add pillars in just for that.

[Kael Hate]

i like it. anything that makes the land between mono and rainbow easier to stand on is cool in my book. only thing i would suggest is a name/type change. the pillar/tower at the end gives the impression that you may include more than six. the type needs to be a permanent, or make a new 'nonbasic pillar' type because the game rules say '2- Your deck can have a maximum of 6 cards of the same type (does not apply to pillars).' just a bunch of semantics though, great card.

Good point. It is a type Pillar tho particularly so it can be destroyed by Tsunami and Earthquake and stack by default.

I would like to see Quantum Pillar/Tower limited to 6 also (yes even tho I have 24 upgraded) but the card set needs some other pillar|tower types to fill the gap first.

Maybe I'm just used to the basic/special thing 'cause I play Pokemon, but I thought it was rather obvious that this was special and thus bound by normal card limit.

Sometimes its not so obvious. Its ok to ask or state it and understand that it could be misinterpreted if there is a semi-conflicting rule.

Also, Crystal energy much?

http://www.serebii.net/card/aquapolis/146.shtml

I definitely like the whole idea of throwing in special pillars. This not being an exception.

Lol, long time since I played pokemon ccg. Don't recall it being around when I played. Crystal energy looks more powerful than Harmonic tower because it has a production even if the other conditions aren't met. If I have 2 water attached does the Crystal energy produce 2 water also?

hea already said that if you have a fire pillar, a fire tower, and this out you would get 4 

I see that now. Strange effect, though, I wouldn't add pillars in just for that.

Its a mechanical anomaly. A pillar and a tower is the same thing once it is in play and this card simply adds 1 to the stack production. While the engine calculates stacks seperately it will be best to let it work that way.

[Salamence_747]

Also, Crystal energy much?

http://www.serebii.net/card/aquapolis/146.shtml

I definitely like the whole idea of throwing in special pillars. This not being an exception.

Lol, long time since I played pokemon ccg. Don't recall it being around when I played. Crystal energy looks more powerful than Harmonic tower because it has a production even if the other conditions aren't met. If I have 2 water attached does the Crystal energy produce 2 water also?

Nope.

If you have 2 water, crystal counts as one water.
It gets complicated when you have the fossil ditto that can mod energy types, but this is off-topic.


Anyway, this whole thing gave me an idea. If the basic/special tower thing were implemented, it seems rather obvious (to me anyway) that quantum pillars would be special. (Of course you'd probably have to up their production to 4-6.)

In fact, your card implies that quantum pillars are not basic:

ABILITY: For each Basic Pillar type you have in play produce one of the Quanta that Pillar produces.

Comment: Because it does not accelerate the random Quantum Pillar it does not aid rainbow unless they use individual Pillars.

You said that it affects basic pillars, but not Quantum pillars. Was it intentional that you called Quantum Pillars non-basic?

[Kael Hate]

ABILITY: For each Basic Pillar type you have in play produce one of the Quanta that Pillar produces.

Comment: Because it does not accelerate the random Quantum Pillar it does not aid rainbow unless they use individual Pillars.

You said that it affects basic pillars, but not Quantum pillars. Was it intentional that you called Quantum Pillars non-basic?

Yep.
Basic Pillar fits the form of, Free card matching the element that produces 1 quanta of that element each turn.

Quantum Pillar isn't of that form, doesn't work in mono and isnt the most basic form of pillar. Note that towers get under the basic rule because they are considered the basic pillar under the upgrade rule.

[asymmetry]

I like it very much!! finally 3/4/5 color decks won't be pain in the butt to balance after all.

[Kael Hate]

Updated with image and less technical wording to make it more friendly.

[Scaredgirl]

Nice, I like this very much.

If you wanted to make it more simple and in line with what the game currently has, you could make the upped version so that it does what Towers usually do, that is produce extra quanta when you play them.

But it works like this too.

[Kael Hate]

Nice, I like this very much.

If you wanted to make it more simple and in line with what the game currently has, you could make the upped version so that it does what Towers usually do, that is produce extra quanta when you play them.

But it works like this too.

I wanted to do that, but because the basic version doesn't actually produce anything (just increase what the other clusters are doing), going to the upped version wouldn't actually do anything coming into play. I kept the magic 2:3 ratio on the upped card by letting it increase your mark as if it was a cluster too.

[$$$man]

wait so 6 harmonic towers change your mark to a x7 for the and can be payed for by using a nova