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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg142433#msg142433
« Reply #72 on: August 20, 2010, 07:16:27 am »
how would this affect pendulums?
At the moment it wouldn't. The pendulums aren't basic Pillars.

If they were to be added to the list of things the Harmonic pillar effects then it would be the same as a pillar and ad one to the stack. Ie. 1 Aether Pillar, 1 Time Pendulum, 1 Darkness Mark, I Harmonic Pillar would make. 2 :aether 2 :time 1 :darkness one turn and 2 :aether 3 :darkness on the other. Harmonic Tower adds 1 :darkness in both cases.




Wait, there's something wrong here: you said harmonic tower will add  :darkness to pendulum's effect in any case but the quanta you described don't follow this rule. If the harmonic tower would add only  :darkness the quanta would be 2 :aether 1 :time 2 :darkness one turn and 2 :aether 3 :darkness the other
The difference between the Harmonic Pillar and Harmonic Tower is that it increases the mark by 1 also, thats where the 1 :darkness came from and has nothing to do with the pendulum.
Ah ok, if that is it, really nice card is under development... do you think harmonic pillar/tower could come out in the next update?

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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg142437#msg142437
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2010, 07:29:51 am »
Ah ok, if that is it, really nice card is under development... do you think harmonic pillar/tower could come out in the next update?
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So no, probably wont be in the next update.

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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg144708#msg144708
« Reply #74 on: August 23, 2010, 08:37:56 am »
Just though I would make a point of something if persons are unaware. This will produce 1 for a Pillar Stack and 1 for a Tower Stack. Ie 1 Fire Pillar, 1 Fire Tower, 1 Harmonic Pillar produces 4 :fire.
Great idea. Makes the gap between Upgraded and non-upgraded smaller as well.

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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg144866#msg144866
« Reply #75 on: August 23, 2010, 03:39:20 pm »
mmm
so it's more strong a deck with half pillars and half tower and some armonic pillar ,than a shiny deck with all upped(which costs so much more)

i'm too young to understand:)
but i am up with the idea that a pillar that boost other pillars is good!

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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg151677#msg151677
« Reply #76 on: September 04, 2010, 01:06:05 am »
This would go great with a rainbow deck, especially after you get alot of pillars out

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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg151780#msg151780
« Reply #77 on: September 04, 2010, 04:26:31 am »
Hm.

With the recent patch, perhaps it's time to also include Pendulums in the list of cards affected by the Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower, no? :)

Earthquake is going to be a little bit more annoyed if that change was implemented...

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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg175605#msg175605
« Reply #78 on: October 13, 2010, 03:29:45 pm »
the idea is really interesting.. i like it

in my oppinion nothing have to be changed :)

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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg188107#msg188107
« Reply #79 on: October 30, 2010, 02:32:19 am »
So, this thing doubles your quanta production? Imagine this in a Fire Lance rush.
No.

If you have ten Fire pillars and this in play you generate 11 fire
If you have 5 fire pillar and 5 water pillar and this in play you generate 6 fire, 6 water.
Doesn't that make it incredibly useless?
For monos, I would rather use another pillar.
For duos and trios, I might use a harmonic pillar.
For rainbows, nope.
Why would this make a good addition? The only situation where this card effect can be highly useful is in a deck with more than 5 different kinds of pillars...

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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg188152#msg188152
« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2010, 04:03:13 am »
Why would this make a good addition? The only situation where this card effect can be highly useful is in a deck with more than 5 different kinds of pillars...
Don't you love it when you answer yourself?
This card would permit 5 element decks to be viable while still being useful in mono (pillars and towers), duo (acts as 2 pillars) and trios and quads as well before capping out at penta/hexa and maybe even hepta decks.

A big reason (if not the only valid reason) for including new forms of quanta generation is to support more decks structures. Harmonic pillar does that by promoting the use of regular pillars in many element decks for consistent many color decks. Previously those decks would have had to rely (and fail) on quantum pillars.
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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg198985#msg198985
« Reply #81 on: November 11, 2010, 08:42:25 pm »
I love your idea of special pillars :). Wouldn't this be a little too strong though? *If it stacks that is (imagine +6 per stack).

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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg258609#msg258609
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2011, 09:28:39 pm »
Guys guys guys. This card is not OP, and it is not useless.
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Re: Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5643.msg258613#msg258613
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2011, 09:37:44 pm »
Guys guys guys. This card is not OP, and it is not useless.
^Explantion to this:
This card basically acts as a seperate pillar, with the upped producing an extra quanta of your mark (which should justify the cost of 2 :rainbow, you are paying 2/3 (yes,two thirds) quanta to produce potententially up to 5 extra quanta). It's pretty clear this card is meant for multiquanta support, as indicated by the series name "Quantum Mechanics".

Oldtrees comment shows the purpose of this card.
A big reason (if not the only valid reason) for including new forms of quanta generation is to support more decks structures. Harmonic pillar does that by promoting the use of regular pillars in many element decks for consistent many color decks. Previously those decks would have had to rely (and fail) on quantum pillars.
In fact, if this was to be introduced, it would make a great substitute to those useless quantum towers in starter decks.

 

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