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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1021100#msg1021100
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2012, 07:54:50 am »
The name for the creature (Fenghuang) and the ability (Ren) was added afterwards. Do you have better names?

Not yet; but those particular terms are very problematic, for the reasons I have listed. (Imagine the confusion if the game ever gets translated into Chinese!)

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Is there a game-balance-related reason for it to be air? I don't find that air really needs creature protections (with the exception of Firefly Queen).

Thematically, recycling old, stale things is very un- :air to me. Air is aggressive, erratic, and carefree. The ability reminds me more of a reincarnation than a 'bounce' (especially with the creature in question being a Phoenix). I see it as something more closely associated with  :time:light, or  :death.

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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1021114#msg1021114
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2012, 09:17:02 am »
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Why  :air

Is there a game-balance-related reason for it to be air? I don't find that air really needs creature protections (with the exception of Firefly Queen).

Thematically, recycling old, stale things is very un- :air to me. Air is aggressive, erratic, and carefree. The ability reminds me more of a reincarnation than a 'bounce' (especially with the creature in question being a Phoenix). I see it as something more closely associated with  :time:light, or  :death.
Thematically no recycling takes place. The creature is granted the maneuverability to avoid death by fleeing.

The game balance reason for it being mono is that it lets creature protection happen at the duo rather than trio level. Similar to but an alternate for Quint.
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1045371#msg1045371
« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2013, 04:10:09 am »
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1045507#msg1045507
« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2013, 06:08:48 pm »
Otyughs and bouncing photons looks hilarious
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1055267#msg1055267
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2013, 07:48:01 pm »
Edit: ^ look in notes ---If Devour is used on a Bouncing creature +1 | +1 is not gained. (Creature is treated as 'escaping')

Too bad all these things are trios. It's tough to balance a trio.

Bouncy pheonix = Turns into ash, and you get a pheonix in your hand?? (Or does Bounce replace the active ability?)

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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1055293#msg1055293
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2013, 08:33:23 pm »
Edit: ^ look in notes ---If Devour is used on a Bouncing creature +1 | +1 is not gained. (Creature is treated as 'escaping')

Too bad all these things are trios. It's tough to balance a trio.

Bouncy pheonix = Turns into ash, and you get a pheonix in your hand?? (Or does Bounce replace the active ability?)
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1055608#msg1055608
« Reply #54 on: March 30, 2013, 08:22:05 pm »
^ But then a bouncy pheonix is worse than a regular one.

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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1055655#msg1055655
« Reply #55 on: March 30, 2013, 11:45:21 pm »
I didn't read the 5 pages, but what happens if a creature with bounce is killed and your hand is already full?
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1055658#msg1055658
« Reply #56 on: March 31, 2013, 12:02:20 am »
I didn't read the 5 pages, but what happens if a creature with bounce is killed and your hand is already full?
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1220919#msg1220919
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2016, 05:13:27 pm »
And cards like decaying dragons can be saved?
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1220930#msg1220930
« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2016, 07:16:00 pm »
And cards like decaying dragons can be saved?

I have just tested in Cygnia, and Bounce will not save a Decaying Dragon when it dies due to its three/four turn counter. However, it will still be saved if it dies for other reasons (CC).
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1221077#msg1221077
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2016, 11:16:16 am »
It could be a good combo with immo
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