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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177694#msg1177694
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2015, 02:09:39 pm »
I don't think people are realizing the trouble of having the draw consistency to pull of these wild combos. Shields aren't generally the best thing to have excessive copies of

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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177700#msg1177700
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2015, 05:46:56 pm »
What happens with multiple hopes? Do the DRs add up?
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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177701#msg1177701
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2015, 06:02:31 pm »
What happens with multiple hopes? Do the DRs add up?

Hardly worth it. Why not Hope+Diamond then?
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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177703#msg1177703
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2015, 06:19:02 pm »
The base DR's would add up, yes. But not the DR from creatures with light
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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177772#msg1177772
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2015, 02:12:37 am »
Do you people not read any of the posts in the thread?
The base DR's would add up, yes. But not the DR from creatures with light
No, they would not, because the same type does not stack. See notes in OP.
What happens with multiple hopes? Do the DRs add up?

Hardly worth it. Why not Hope+Diamond then?
Neither add up because DR does not stack. At best, Diamond Shield would gain immortality, and Mirror Shield would be a cheaper combo anyway. Kirby has addressed the "same type does not stack" FIVE times. This is not hard.
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I think shields that have already been durabilitied should be able to be durabilitied again, due to the difficulty of using 3+ shields effectively in a deck, and the fact that only a certain number of effects can stack anyway. I also support -1 cost, mostly due to the above. I think this card should be splashable in some decks.
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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177781#msg1177781
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2015, 05:24:44 am »
I think shields that have already been durabilitied should be able to be durabilitied again, due to the difficulty of using 3+ shields effectively in a deck, and the fact that only a certain number of effects can stack anyway. I also support -1 cost, mostly due to the above. I think this card should be splashable in some decks.
I agree. You should be able to durability durablitied shields.

Also, the -1 cost was already implemented. As stated in the OP.
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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177833#msg1177833
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2015, 09:57:52 pm »
The two questions were more of a "If I do one, I shouldn't do the other" type of thing. But now that I look at it, I think you should be able to durability durablitied shields even with the lowered cost.

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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177865#msg1177865
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2015, 09:00:46 am »
What type is Gravity shield, Wings and Dimensional shield?
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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177878#msg1177878
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2015, 03:12:06 pm »
Effect.
The way I see it, there are there types of shields.
Timed Effect, Permanent Effect, and Defense Rate.
You can't combine any two of the same type.
Therefore, Dim and Wings can't be combined, but the two previously stated could be combined with Gravity Shield.
That's my interpretation.

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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177894#msg1177894
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2015, 06:17:14 pm »
What type is Gravity shield, Wings and Dimensional shield?

Effect.
The way I see it, there are there types of shields.
Timed Effect, Permanent Effect, and Defense Rate.
You can't combine any two of the same type.
Therefore, Dim and Wings can't be combined, but the two previously stated could be combined with Gravity Shield.
That's my interpretation.

I think of Dims and Wings as evasion, while Gravity Shield as effect. Now making a table for organization of shields.

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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177908#msg1177908
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2015, 07:32:23 pm »
Hopefully, this table clears up shield types

Spoiler for Table:
NameAsorptionDREffectEvasionOther
Shield1
Dissipation Shield :entropy
Skull Shield1Can turn creature into skeleton
Bone WallBone Walls, created when a creature dies
Gravity ShieldBlocks creatures with greater-than-5 HP
Titanium Shield2
Emerald Shield1Reflective, Immaterial
Thorn Carapace75% chance of poisoning attacking creature
Fire ShieldDeals 1 damage to attacking creature
Ice Shield130% chance of freezing attacking creature
Reflective ShieldReflective, Immaterial
Solar Shield1Produces 1 :light per attacking creature
HopeNumber of :light-emiting creaturesImmaterial
Fog Shield40%
WingsNon-airborne, non-rangedTimer (5)
ProcastinationDelay attacking creature for 1 turn
Dusk Mantle50%
Dimensional ShieldAllTimer (3)

Edit: fixed mistake
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Re: Durability | Durability https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57463.msg1177909#msg1177909
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2015, 07:34:18 pm »
Solar shield is reflective and immaterial?

 

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