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Cygnia Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1209071#msg1209071
« on: October 07, 2015, 07:21:17 pm »
Post all feedback for Cygnia here:

For Cygnia as a concept itself:
- Provide solid arguments as to what you think about Cygnia itself

For Cards:
- What cards do you find fun?
- What cards should be changed? Why?
- What cards are OP/UP?
- What decks do you like to run these cards in? Include deck code if possible in the following format:
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For Bugs:
- Please include a copy of the error message Cygnia spits out when you encounter a bug. If it does not provide an error message, use a screenshot instead.
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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1209096#msg1209096
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2015, 08:54:27 pm »
This needs to get stickied or it will get lost in the shuffle.
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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1209098#msg1209098
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2015, 08:58:15 pm »
This needs to get stickied or it will get lost in the shuffle.
Done.

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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1209105#msg1209105
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2015, 09:20:40 pm »
I was playing Pestal against Destiny, and the chat yielded this:

Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 0, 0, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined

Probably a bug.
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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1209113#msg1209113
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2015, 10:38:23 pm »
I was playing Pestal against Destiny, and the chat yielded this:

Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 950, 29, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined, http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/etgify.js, 0, 0, TypeError: Cannot read property 'health' of undefined

Probably a bug.
I've been reporting bugs in the main Cygnia thread. I think this one is intended specifically for card feedback.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/card-ideas-and-art/elements-cygnia-elements-the-game-with-your-card-ideas!/

although I think we may want a separate bug squashing thread eventually.

On that note, I am loving the addition of rejuvination.
Been grinding the tar out of mages with it. It provides a desperately needed CC and PC option for life. Just the edge it needs to handle difficult creature and permanent abilities, and it provides a healing boost alternative to EB.
The cost is pretty spot on as well I think.
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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1209115#msg1209115
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2015, 11:06:37 pm »
As far as feedback on cards, I'm loving the Wind Sweep + Nightmare combo. Provides a lot of denial along with decent healing and damage if chained, which is quite often in a deck like the one below:

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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1209132#msg1209132
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2015, 12:46:30 am »
Sponge finally gave water good rushes:

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Quartet pillars will need a nerf if oetg is any indication
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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1209569#msg1209569
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2015, 04:44:27 pm »
Mindgale in GotPmare is so trollish against champion and FG.
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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1209576#msg1209576
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2015, 06:18:42 pm »
Worthwhile note: Fae's ability does NOT synnergy with mitosis (costs the full 11 to use the ability).
In some sense, thats a relative side buff to fractal or side nerf to mitosis... depending on how you look at it.

The unupgraded version seems surprisingly well balanced.
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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1209629#msg1209629
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2015, 10:26:33 pm »
My take on Faetal

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You normally have 6 or 7 pends when you can fractal, making faes a 7/7 for 3-4 quanta. Just dim your way from there. In terms of damage it is close to reclusetal, but since fae doesn't cost aether you gain one turn. Fae is also much harder to kill.
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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1210133#msg1210133
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2015, 05:03:56 pm »
Gravity has some very interesting CC now. Tremors + Meteorite in an blessed otyugh deck with angels

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The requirements / combos are complex and expensive enough to keep them relatively balanced so I think it will work out.

...Its kind of refreshing to see a CC that actually hits both sides as a double edge, but without being as unstable as pandemonium.
This could add some very interesting :death :gravity combos as well perhaps.
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Re: Cygnia Cards Feedback Thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59883.msg1210134#msg1210134
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2015, 05:11:04 pm »
...Its kind of refreshing to see a CC that actually hits both sides as a double edge, but without being as unstable as pandemonium.
This could add some very interesting :death :gravity combos as well perhaps.

1. Dry Spell :P

2. Also, yeah, Death/Gravy with mass Skeleton deaths and some Otys could make for a very powerful defense, although offense might lack some. Perhaps just throw some Overdriven dragons in there :D
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