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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112205#msg1112205
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 03:15:33 pm »
... Er, I'm pretty sure this is a shield.
sorry, i got confused by the fact i didn't read the word "shield" anywhere

why would you want a card that absorbs quanta for the same protection of the :chroma shield?
unless you meant "generate" or absorb from your opponent

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112210#msg1112210
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2013, 03:38:08 pm »


Wow, you're right, clearly cards that absorb quanta are useless



And the word shield must clearly be at the beginning of the card
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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112220#msg1112220
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 04:41:57 pm »
Alright, I'll change it.

Also it cost 1 more quanta than tower shield... Also it checks fractal, twin universe, steal, and really any expensive spell.

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112226#msg1112226
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2013, 05:17:53 pm »
why would you want a card that absorbs quanta for the same protection of the :chroma shield?
unless you meant "generate" or absorb from your opponent
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So I assume that what you mean by absorb is that it absorbs enemy quanta... Interesting effect.

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I think you misspelled quanta (as "quata") on the bottom of the card.
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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112243#msg1112243
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2013, 06:23:38 pm »
When understanding this card look to solar shield, it says absorb physical damage into quanta. This card is a spell absorption, when your opponent pays a cost you get twice that in light.

Generate may be a better word to use as it seems people are getting confused. It does not touch your opponent's quanta. My line of thinking was akin to the yugioh card spell absorbtion, each time a spell is played gain 500lp.

I fell in love with the idea of having a card that hurt fractical, discouraged steal without being immaterial (if they steal you gain enough quanta to play another), and was more useful than the reflection shield. I'm not sure that you guys noticed, but the damage reduction includes spell damage.


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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112251#msg1112251
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2013, 06:34:52 pm »
If you use Fractal or Sky Blitz and all quanta is drained, do you get double the quanta drained as well?

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112255#msg1112255
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2013, 06:49:46 pm »
No that's an additional effect that is not part of what I consider cost.

Costs must be played before you get an effect, such as the the doubling and then quanta draining.

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112259#msg1112259
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2013, 07:09:00 pm »
When understanding this card look to solar shield, it says absorb physical damage into quanta. This card is a spell absorption, when your opponent pays a cost you get twice that in light.

Generate may be a better word to use as it seems people are getting confused. It does not touch your opponent's quanta. My line of thinking was akin to the yugioh card spell absorbtion, each time a spell is played gain 500lp.

I fell in love with the idea of having a card that hurt fractical, discouraged steal without being immaterial (if they steal you gain enough quanta to play another), and was more useful than the reflection shield. I'm not sure that you guys noticed, but the damage reduction includes spell damage.
Ah! that makes more sense. So this card makes quanta for you when your opponent uses a spell...

That is a very interesting concept indeed... I wish it were under an element that was more in need of quanta production and shields (like gravity, time, or aether). But thematically I suppose it makes sense in the light element.
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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112292#msg1112292
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2013, 10:19:02 pm »


Wow, you're right, clearly cards that absorb quanta are useless



please read again what i said, and read again the card

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And the word shield must clearly be at the beginning of the card

"wall", and if you actually read the card, it says "summon 7 bone SHIELDS"  [...] "gain 2 SHIELDS"
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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112302#msg1112302
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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112420#msg1112420
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2013, 03:00:52 pm »


a good example of an unclear card that should be fixed.
though probably a negligent mistake as shields have"shield" and weapons have"weapon"
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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112439#msg1112439
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2013, 03:56:10 pm »
... we'll fix this card when zanz fixes Wings. Now stop flaming everyone.

 

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