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Wormhole Shield | Nexus Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1111779#msg1111779
« on: November 25, 2013, 03:50:03 pm »
NAME:
Wormhole Shield
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
5 :aether
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: Reduces damage by 1.
Generates mirror quanta equal to twice the cost of any spell card played by opponent.
NAME:
Nexus Shield
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
6 :aether
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: Reduces damage by 2.
Generates mirror quanta equal to twice the cost of any spell card played by opponent.

ART:
OdinVanguard
IDEA:
Foofatron
NOTES:
This activates when your opponent pays the cost. Effect reverts if opponent cancels.
Mirror quanta
SERIES:


Old:
Spoiler for Hidden:
NAME:
Solar Cell
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: reduce damage by 1.
Generates light quanta equal to twice the cost of any spell card played by opponent.
NAME:
Solar Panel
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
6 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: reduce damage by 2.
Generates light quanta equal to twice the cost of any spell card played by opponent.

ART:

IDEA:
Foofatron
NOTES:
This activates when your opponent pays the cost. Effect reverts if opponent cancels.
SERIES:
Solar
« Last Edit: December 04, 2013, 09:45:04 pm by foofatron »

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1111783#msg1111783
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 03:59:33 pm »
Not sure if absorb is the best word choice as I doubt that it actually takes light from anyone. The only use of absorb that is currently in game is for flooding which absorbs 1 :water per turn. A better word would be 'generate' or 'produce'. Besides this technicality, the card concept is good, possibly a little strong as solar panel would be as strong as Titanium Shield for one more cost (which is easily recovered with this card's ability). Another concept that could be swapped in / somehow modified is you heal 5 HP, or are able to bless a creature each time your opponent uses a spell (sorry for adding my idea to your post, but it could work).

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1111797#msg1111797
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2013, 05:04:09 pm »
Hmm, my picture is a solar panel absorbs light into one source, and white light is essentially rainbow. Generate works fine.

I could up the cost, but I want people to use the shield. I really love how it punishes steal and fractical, gain 6 for steal and 18 for fractical!
« Last Edit: November 25, 2013, 05:12:50 pm by foofatron »

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1111803#msg1111803
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2013, 05:43:00 pm »
In this form, the card feels very much like a Solar Shield / Solar Buckler but with damage reduction of 2 instead of 1.  If we count the different means of generating light qua(n)ta for the controller of this shield as comparable but differently situational, then we can focus on the damage reduction.

For the unupgraded Solar Panel card, the only comparison is Titanium Shield, which is a thematic choice of earth having the largest straightforward damage reduction at the cost of any other benefit.  As such, I'd think any other unupgraded shield with straightforward damage reduction of 2 that may exist would need to have some sort of counterbalance, and I'm not sure costing 5 :light as opposed to 4 :earth achieves that counterbalance, particularly given the quanta generation potential of the shield.  At only 1 damage reduction, this concern fades, and the situational quanta generation makes it a more defensible alternative to Solar Shield.

For the upgraded Solar Buckler card, we have as comparisons Tower Shield (5 :rainbow), Jade Shield (7 :life), and Permafrost Shield (  :water) with respect to the straightforward damage reduction of 2.  Now, certainly, Jade Shield and Permafrost Shield each have additional protection benefits beyond their straightforward damage reduction, but Tower Shield does not.  Valuing the quanta generation potential of Solar Cell similarly to that of Solar Buckler, a cost of 6 for Solar Cell seems more appropriate.

One concern in your notes is how the shield absorbs quanta in the situations where an opponent cancels the use of a spell.  If a player clicks Improved Steal and then decides not to select a target and instead to cancel the spell and play a different card, would his opponent with an active Solar Panel / Solar Cell generate 6 light quanta?

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1111818#msg1111818
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2013, 07:08:02 pm »
Updated cards with suggestions.

I didn't think of it, but you should lose the quanta you gained if they cancel, and I hope that is programmable.

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1111848#msg1111848
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2013, 09:03:03 pm »
The text should read 'its'. 'it's' means 'it is'

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1111857#msg1111857
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2013, 09:35:27 pm »
Fix'd.

Also how does the poll and getting ideas moved up work?

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1111901#msg1111901
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 12:08:50 am »
So it doesn't work with sanctuary *sad face*.

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1111995#msg1111995
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 02:53:23 pm »
so, as this is not a shield, is this stackable?

also, how would a solar cell reduce damage?

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112043#msg1112043
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2013, 06:53:50 pm »
... Er, I'm pretty sure this is a shield.

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112067#msg1112067
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2013, 08:13:05 pm »
It's a shield.

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Re: Solar Panel | Solar Cell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52591.msg1112204#msg1112204
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 03:12:35 pm »
... Er, I'm pretty sure this is a shield.

sorry, i got confused by the fact i didn't read the word "shield" anywhere

why would you want a card that absorbs quanta for the same protection than the :chroma shield?
unless you meant "generate" or absorb from your opponent
« Last Edit: November 27, 2013, 03:15:02 pm by iskelion »

 

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