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Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1043560#msg1043560
« on: February 17, 2013, 03:25:07 pm »
NAME:
Haunted Mirror
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
6
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 4
TEXT:
Reflection: Gains any ability it is targeted by. Immune to status effects.
NAME:
Spectral Mirror
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 6
TEXT:
Reflection: Gains any ability it is targeted by. Immune to status effects.

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NOTES:
Reflection is an active ability while the immunity to status effects is passive. The status effects that I can remember right now are: poison, freeze, delay, adrenaline, immortality, aflatoxin, gravity pull, wisdom and purify, although there are probably others. If you guys have any suggestions or feedback regarding anything then please feel free to post, as I want to make sure this card is as perfect as possible before I submit it to the Crucible.
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« Last Edit: February 18, 2013, 03:33:30 am by Fireleaf »
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Re: Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1044121#msg1044121
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 12:31:00 pm »
I hate to do this, but it's been two and a half days and this card is no longer on the first page of the smithy and seems to be headed for oblivion, so... bump. I really would appreciate it if I could get some feedback on this idea.
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Re: Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1044123#msg1044123
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 12:41:31 pm »
It'll be fun if it reflects spell damage.
You said "gain ability it is targeted by". Is this includes Fire Bolt, RT, paradox, devour or other non-status spell?
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Re: Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1044204#msg1044204
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 05:57:41 pm »
Not sure I understand exactly how this would work.

Say you cast this, then cast Pandemonium.  Does this then gain, "3 :entropy: Pandemonium"

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Re: Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1044207#msg1044207
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 06:15:29 pm »
When you say "ability it is targeted by" does this mean it is limited to skills used by creatures and permanents, or will spells be included. If so, then how will that work?
Also, what would happen in the case of a sundial? Would it gain the attack prevention ability as well? That would be rather broken I think.
What happens when it gets affected by a shield ability?

Some clarification would be useful in the notes section.
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Re: Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1044374#msg1044374
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 12:17:26 am »
I mean that if for example you have this card out as well as a purple nymph and you use the nymph's skill on the mirror it will gain 4 :entropy: Antimatter. So yes, it would be limited to creature and permanent skills. Sorry for the vague card text. Sundials and shields do not target, so no skill is gained. In the case of things like RT and devour both of those skills remove the card from play, so there is no chance for the mirror to gain the skill.
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Re: Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1044587#msg1044587
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2013, 06:06:35 pm »
I mean that if for example you have this card out as well as a purple nymph and you use the nymph's skill on the mirror it will gain 4 :entropy: Antimatter. So yes, it would be limited to creature and permanent skills. Sorry for the vague card text. Sundials and shields do not target, so no skill is gained. In the case of things like RT and devour both of those skills remove the card from play, so there is no chance for the mirror to gain the skill.
How about lightning the Haunted Mirror? If I understood correctly, this will just die.
You mean it gains the ability only if it survives? (If it survives, reverse the effect and gain it)
And how about Pandemonium? Does it gain pandemonium skill or the specific one that targeted it or Chaos Seed?
Not only panda, but how about AoE spells? For example, if you cast RoF does it gain "deal 3 damage to target" or "deal 3 damage to all enemy creatures, removes invisibility"?
How about GP? Since Armagio's skill is called "gravity pull", if the mirror gets the GP ability, can it target any target you want or it just gain "gravity pull" same with Armagio? (And it means it is useless because it's immune to its skill itself)
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Re: Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1044638#msg1044638
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2013, 08:46:34 pm »
This card is affected completely normally by spell cards.

When targeted by a creature or permanent ability, first the ability takes effect, and then the skill is gained.

Ex. Eternity uses RT on mirror; mirror is RTed
Ex. Fire bolt is used on mirror; mirror loses appropriate HPs, no other effect
Ex. Black nymph uses LS on mirror; it gains the vampire skill but is not poisoned (does not gain LS skill because it is replaced by vampire)
Ex. Earth nymph uses BB on mirror; it gains 20HP, is not delayed, and gains the BB skill, costing 3 :earth
Ex. You cast Pandemonium. Mirror is hit by a random effect. It takes damage normally but if for example the effect is congeal the mirror will be unaffected.

I hope that clears some things up.
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Re: Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1058897#msg1058897
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2013, 02:00:00 am »
What happens if it is devoured, does it gain devour or does it die?
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Re: Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1058958#msg1058958
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2013, 11:35:14 am »
It doesn't actually matter which order the two happen in; either it gains devour and is then killed or it is killed before it gains devour. The same goes for lobo, incidentally; neither is a status effect, so the mirror is not immune to them.
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Re: Haunted Mirror | Spectral Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46984.msg1059077#msg1059077
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2013, 10:20:30 pm »
very lethal with life, mitosis and jade staff....
the cost seems fair though because of its powerful ability.
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