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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg239941#msg239941
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2011, 01:12:45 am »
Unupped
Attack: + 2
Health : + 0
Ability Threat: + 3 (First ability) + 1 (Second ability)
Cost: 6

Upped:
Attack : + 2
Health : + 0
Ability Threat : +3 (First Ability) +2 (Second Ability)
Upgrade bonus: -1
Cost: 6
w/o Upgrade Bonus : 7

Card seems balanced to me if that is done.
Ah, sorry, I may be a bit sleepy by now (shame that forum is most active at my sleeping time..), please, can you clarify this a bit for me? So you mean it should have a bigger attack by 2? The +3(1st ability) and the -1 Upgrade bonus completely escapes me.. Huh, I'll bring a coffee.. :|
Sorry if this seemed confusing to you. I was just posting the calcuation of the values for Quanta Cost if you planned to make these changes:

I'm thinking of a nerf for the upgraded, to +0|+1, and gaining +2regen for some benefit as an upgrade. Thus increasing the cost maybe to 5 :life or 6 :life? Would that balance things a bit?

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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg239960#msg239960
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2011, 01:34:54 am »
no one's mentioned how much of a help this would be against Otys. You all must be Oty lovers :(
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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg239963#msg239963
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2011, 01:36:07 am »
no one's mentioned how much of a help this would be against Otys. You all must be Oty lovers :(
But one must consider the power of Fractal'd ball lightning.

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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg239964#msg239964
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2011, 01:37:56 am »
no one's mentioned how much of a help this would be against Otys. You all must be Oty lovers :(
But one must consider the power of Fractal'd ball lightning.
but don't  forget to consider the counters to that, such as thunderstorm and fire shield, hope, etc.
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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg239969#msg239969
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2011, 01:41:27 am »
no one's mentioned how much of a help this would be against Otys. You all must be Oty lovers :(
But one must consider the power of Fractal'd ball lightning.
but don't  forget to consider the counters to that, such as thunderstorm and fire shield, hope, etc.
Simple solution (however it will sound complex)
Card Text: All your creatures gain +0|+1
Timing of effect: At the end of the turn after 0HP is checked
Result: All your creatures with positive HP gain +0|+1
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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg240221#msg240221
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2011, 10:01:59 am »
Timing of effect: At the end of the turn after 0HP is checked
Result: All your creatures with positive HP gain +0|+1
It should be fine this way, I think; updated
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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg240880#msg240880
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2011, 09:07:57 am »
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Simple, but I personally do think that the effect should stack. Fractal Ball Lightning issues aside, I would imagine that playing multiples of these in a field should be beneficial for your creatures (except against Gravity Shield, but bleh). It could be a soft counter to Plague, where playing a Witch Doctor every turn (if you could afford the :life quanta) could counteract the effects of the AOE CC. That's just my opinion though. :P

I like how the Witch Doctor will grant a little life to everyone, but only heals himself...

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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg240886#msg240886
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2011, 09:16:41 am »
Thanks! I like the idea (and was meant that way..). Edited first page.
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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg282329#msg282329
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2011, 08:25:14 am »
Sorry for making a little 'bump' here, but with the introduction of mitosis, new possibilities are at hand.

Placing several Docs on the field, each of them granting +hp to the others and itself could make quite a massive army:

Let's say you're using frogs, trices, mitosis and witch doc (upped setting):
5 :life (Witch Doc) + 4 :life (Mitosis) = 3|5 Witch Doc.
One or two turns later, for the cost of a Jade Dragon, you'll have two 3|6 Docs + two 5|5 Frogs + and a 5|7 Cockatrice.

'Spamming' Docs only can lead you to a nearly indestructible army, the enemy have to use some serious CC or instakill to get rid of them. Dropping an Adrenalin or two even grants you some nice offense. With Bonds you can even stall for quite long, though it's costy.

My questions are:
Is it quanta wise, or should it get a one :life decrease/increase in cost?
Which ability should it lose in the case of lobotomy (mitosis)? The regeneration or the hp increase of others (I'd say the former..)
How would it synergise with other element's creatures?

Thanks for the thoughts.
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2011, 05:15:08 pm »
The regeneration should be removed by lobotomy/mitosis.
The hp gained by mitosis Doctors is not OP.
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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg282966#msg282966
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2011, 08:42:04 am »
Very nice card. But i don't like the name Witch Doctor and the art. It does'nt sound or looks anything :life Life like.
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Re: Witch Doctor | Witch Doctor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18792.msg282998#msg282998
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2011, 11:07:13 am »
Very nice card. But i don't like the name Witch Doctor and the art. It does'nt sound or looks anything :life Life like.
Thank you, Nik!

Hmm, maybe the word 'witch' could be distractful.

According to Wiki:

"A witch doctor originally referred to a type of cunning man who treated ailments believed to be caused by witchcraft. It is currently used to refer to healers in some third world regions, who use traditional healing rather than contemporary medicine."

According to the dictionary:

"witch doctor: –noun
a person in some societies who attempts to cure sickness and to exorcise evil spirits by the use of magic. "

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