Windmill | Wind Turbine

[OldTrees]

Thank you very much! +1 Karma

This idea has great potential and could even be split into 3-4 separate quality mechanic offshoots.

Once the excitement of choosing a new version has settled I will offer insight on the balance.

[rohlfo]

Thank you very much! +1 Karma

This idea has great potential and could even be split into 3-4 separate quality mechanic offshoots.

Once the excitement of choosing a new version has settled I will offer insight on the balance.

Erm, I don't actually know what Karma is for....though I get the feeling I owe people some!

Cheers 

Right, new version up, feedback welcome

[YoYoBro]

Really nice now. And I think the costings are fine too. Maybe instead of 5 put  in the textbox? Just saying this because usually cards are this way, but there aren't abilities that cost 5 atm so your choice may be fine

[rohlfo]

Really nice now. And I think the costings are fine too. Maybe instead of 5 put  in the textbox? Just saying this because usually cards are this way, but there aren't abilities that cost 5 atm so your choice may be fine

I saw that on other cards, so originally put  but because it's quite a few, I thought it would be easier to see at a glance if I put  5 ...?

[YoYoBro]

Oh, nvm then. I may be wrong It's just that I like seeing several quanta marks on cards... I think that makes them aesthetically better

[rohlfo]

Oh, nvm then. I may be wrong It's just that I like seeing several quanta marks on cards... I think that makes them aesthetically better

You're not wrong, you're right, that's how it's done in the game! The reason I put 5 was to make it easier to see, it's a minor point which can be changed though if need be.

[OldTrees]

Version being commented on
Casting Cost: 5 |5
Activation Cost: 5 |5
Effect Unupped:For 5 turns Windmill will generate 2 quanta of your mark per turn.
Effect Upgraded:For 7 turns Wind Turbine will generate 2 quanta of your mark per turn.

This version reminds me of Rustler
Casting Cost:1 |1
Attack:1|1
HP:1|3
Effect:  ->

Windmill is a 5 ->10mark conversion with an initial cost of 5 and is fixed to one 5 turn conversion every 5 turns
Wind Turbine is a 5 ->14mark conversion with an initial cost of 5 and is fixed to one 5 turn conversion every 5 turns

In conclusion, I think that Windmill|Wind Turbine have too high of a casting cost and too high an activation cost (or too slow of an activation).

Suggestions
Mark 1 (probably still UP)
Casting Cost: 3 |3
Activation Cost: 4 |3
Effect:For 5 turns Windmill will generate 2 quanta of your mark per turn.

Mark 2 (probably still UP)
Casting Cost: 3 |3
Activation Cost: |
Effect:Produce 3 quanta of your mark (can be used multiple times per turn)

[YoYoBro]

Casting Cost: 3  |4 
Activation Cost: 3  |1 
Effect:For 5 turns Windmill will generate 2 quanta of your mark per turn.

What about this?

[rohlfo]

Thanks OldTrees for analysis and feedback, and for YoYoBro for input.

Firstly, I'd like to stick to Mark 1 idea. Although quick quanta may be nice, flash already covers that. Also, thematically, the idea is summoning a wind with air quanta that drives your Windmill/turbine to create energy over a bit of time.

To costing, I see I need to change it. I'll have to probs sleep on it, but will take in all comments and try find a way.
One thing I would say, is that A Rustler is more one dimensional than this (only  ->  ) rather than  -> potentially anything. Also a Rustler is easier to demolish/kill than this, being a 1|1 creature not a Permanent.

Still, needs changing, so will think about it, really appreciate the feedback

oh, and if someone still wants to explain the whole karma thing to me, would be also cool, thanks

[YoYoBro]

No problem, mate. And about karma, there is not much to explain. You give it to m.. erm.. to people you like, and they give it to you. It's a way for ScaredGirl to be envied from newbies for measuring how much someone likes helping other people

[rohlfo]

Then why does OldTrees only have 22!?!?!??!!?

As to card, been thinking, I'd like casting cost to be cheap, building wind turbines is quite cheap. The cost of the "wind" should still stay expensive-ish. Just getting that balance right. Maybe have it not last as long and have upped version give 3 quanta per turn (more efficient at capturing wind energy)
so, current thought is more along the lines of:

casting cost: 2 | v2
activation cost: 4  | 4 
gives 2 quanta of mark for 4 turns for unupped. gives 3 quanta of mark for 4 turns for upped.

perhaps even reduce to 3 turns, and give more quanta? makes it a bit quicker

[OldTrees]

Then why does OldTrees only have 22!?!?!??!!?
Because usually they are too busy responding to my suggestions
As to card, been thinking, I'd like casting cost to be cheap, building wind turbines is quite cheap. The cost of the "wind" should still stay expensive-ish. Just getting that balance right. Maybe have it not last as long and have upped version give 3 quanta per turn (more efficient at capturing wind energy)
so, current thought is more along the lines of:

casting cost: 2 | v2
activation cost: 4  | 4 
gives 2 quanta of mark for 4 turns for unupped. gives 3 quanta of mark for 4 turns for upped.

perhaps even reduce to 3 turns, and give more quanta? makes it a bit quicker

CC: 2|2
AC: 4|4
Effect:2|3 mark per turn for 4 turns.
looks good.