Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield

[Rutarete]

Bump.

Would it be more or less thematic if, instead of a set upkeep, the upkeep would be X , where X = the current damage reduction.
Is this change preferred to the current?

[OldTrees]

Titanium | Diamond
Casting Cost: 4 |6
DR: 2|3

|
v

Diamond | Diamond
Casting Cost: 7 |6
DR: 3|3

|
v

Obsidian | Obsidian (minecraft reference)
Casting Cost: 10 |9
DR: 4|4

|
v

Winding | Winding
Casting Cost: 7 |6
Upkeep Cost: 1
DR: 4|4

|
v

Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield
Casting Cost: 3 |2
Activation Cost: 1 (2 times per turn)
Min DR: 1
Max DR: 4

[Rutarete]

The minimum DR is 0 -that's where it starts at.
I shall update the images tomorrow.

[OldTrees]

The minimum DR is 0 -that's where it starts at.
I shall update the images tomorrow.

I was suggesting a total buff. A starting DR of 0 would necessitate 3 uses per turn which is not as aesthetically pleasing as matching SoR's 2 uses.

[Manipul8r]

I think the shield should have a base DR of 1, or it's useless unless you have lots of quanta to spare.  A shield is not a shied if it does nothing at its simplest form.  I also think to maintain a DR of 4, a higher cost should be paid than to keep it at 2 or 3.  Here is my idea for a modification and I also checked if it fits on the card.

Reduce damage by X+1.  X decreases by 1 each turn.
    : Increase X by 2.  X can't be more than 3.

This would keep you from having to use it twice, which mechanically I don't like, but it would make you pay the cost of increasing it by 2 in order to maintain the 4 DR.

[jacker]

A bit expensive, but i believe that is not a bad card. Normal shields don't give you 4 DR

[OldTrees]

I think the shield should have a base DR of 1, or it's useless unless you have lots of quanta to spare.  A shield is not a shied if it does nothing at its simplest form.  I also think to maintain a DR of 4, a higher cost should be paid than to keep it at 2 or 3.  Here is my idea for a modification and I also checked if it fits on the card.

Reduce damage by X+1.  X decreases by 1 each turn.
    : Increase X by 2.  X can't be more than 3.

This would keep you from having to use it twice, which mechanically I don't like, but it would make you pay the cost of increasing it by 2 in order to maintain the 4 DR.

This is a possible variant. However I would balance it as:
Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield
Casting Cost: 3 |2
  : Increase DR by 2.
DR decreases by 1 per turn.
Min DR: 1
Max DR: 4
Thus
Maintaining DR 4 costs 7|6 + 2 per turn.
Alternating DR 3 and 4 costs 5|4 + 1 per turn.

[Rutarete]

I suppose it's still plenty thematic to start winding at 1. (or treat 1 as ).
If 2 is worth an increase of 2 then I'll go with 1:time being worth an increase of one. They both can end up the same, but multiple uses is more equally thematic, which i'm inclined to go with.
Or, if it's better to have a higher cost for higher DR, it could be X: Increase DR by 1, Where X is the current DR. Thus maintaining DR 4 would be Casting Cost + + +  +  Onward, in other words, Casting Cost + 6 + 3 per turn to get to and maintain 4 DR. While maintaining 3 DR would be Casting Cost + 3 + 2 per turn

[OldTrees]

Per turn costs are expensive.

Since you want multiple (2) uses per turn, I think this version was the best suited.
Wind-Up Shield | Wind-Up Shield
Casting Cost: 3 |2
Activation Cost: 1 (2 times per turn)
Min DR: 1
Max DR: 4

[Rutarete]

Just wondering, why only 2 uses per turn? How would your balancing change if it was 3 uses per turn?

[OldTrees]

Just wondering, why only 2 uses per turn? How would your balancing change if it was 3 uses per turn?

[thinking out loud]
Approximating a True Casting Cost of 1 /4 /7 with upkeep of 1 is my theory for balanced upkeep alternate cost for DRs 2/3/4.

The 2 per turn model reaches 4 /5 /7 true casting cost for DRs 2/3/4. The larger jump between DRs 3 and 4 was intentional. A 3 per turn model would have a minimum DR of 0.

Approximating true casting cost of 3 per turn model (- the casting cost) +2/+3/+5.
[/TOL]
3 turn model
Casting Cost: 2 |1
Activation Cost: 1 (3 uses per turn)
Minimum DR: 0
Maximum DR: 4

Reflection:
The only change between the two models is the DR 1 usage is changed from 3 to 3 + 1 per turn. DR 1 is slightly UP at 3 . No reason to increase that cost.

[Xenocidius]

CURATOR COMMENT

• Please fix the casting costs in the table.
• The description box should contain the exact card text.