Wind of Alignment | Wind of Alignment

[kev]

NAME: Wind of Alignment ELEMENT: Air COST: 4 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: N/A ABILITY: Shield: After every turn you take damage, some of opponent's quanta is randomly converted into quanta of their mark. ART BY: kevkev60614 IDEA BY: kevkev60614	NAME: Wind of Alignment ELEMENT: Air COST: 4 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: N/A ABILITY: Shield: reduce damage by 1. After every turn you take damage, some of opponent's quanta is randomly converted into quanta of their mark. ART BY: kevkev60614 IDEA BY: kevkev60614

NOTES: [/color][/b] Intended to have sort of the opposite effect as discord. I've been brainstorming ways to equalize the rainbow versus mono/duo playing field.  And currently air's only shield is Fog.

SERIES: [/color][/b] N/A

[Kuroaitou]

Hm... an interesting effect, but some rainbows may not be affected by this shield as much as you'd expect (unless it's really powerful when it comes to transforming other precious quanta into the user's mark). Could you make the text slightly more concise though? It sounds a little awkward reading the description of the shield...

Try doing:

"After every turn, some
of your opponent's quanta
is randomly converted into
quanta of their mark."

An interesting effect though  - this would be fairly useless (or even detrimental) against a majority of other decks out there, however, including mono and or duo decks. Aside from the fact that only has one shield, is there a reason why it SHOULD be a shield? (Wind doesn't necessarily imply a defensive barrier...).

[kev]

Hm... an interesting effect, but some rainbows may not be affected by this shield as much as you'd expect (unless it's really powerful when it comes to transforming other precious quanta into the user's mark). Could you make the text slightly more concise though? It sounds a little awkward reading the description of the shield...

Try doing:

"After every turn, some
of your opponent's quanta
is randomly converted into
quanta of their mark."

An interesting effect though  - this would be fairly useless (or even detrimental) against a majority of other decks out there, however, including mono and or duo decks. Aside from the fact that only has one shield, is there a reason why it SHOULD be a shield? (Wind doesn't necessarily imply a defensive barrier...).

Thanks for the feedback.  Your wording is better than mine.  I was trying to copy exact language from existing cards (e.g. Discord), but I fumbled it.  I'll edit when it's unlikely there will be further changes in the card.

I remember reading in a flying Discord thread that Discord is a lot more effective when used multiple times in a turn.  It occurred to me Wind of Alignment's effect might become OP if it were a stackable permanent/creature, etc., so I wanted to make it either a shield or a weapon.  Air's lack of a viable shield (imo) made the choice easier.

There are obviously a lot of other ways to solve that problem and I'm open to suggestions.  I'm open to alternate artwork as well if people aren't in love with this image.

[ManOfManySpoons]

After reading the Tesla Coil idea thread, it occurs to me that it might be interesting to convert 1 random quantum per damage source to the opponent's mark.  It would make life way more difficult late game for rainbows, and early game would just be disruptive.  Entropy mark rainbows could survive by conserving their supernovas until they had a few things to play, but it would be at the very least tedious. 

[killsdazombies]

This would help alot of decks! other peoples decks.... underpowered shield unless a deck that runs its ability on its mark

[Kuroaitou]

After reading the Tesla Coil idea thread, it occurs to me that it might be interesting to convert 1 random quantum per damage source to the opponent's mark.

Could you provide another example of this? I'm not exactly sure what you mean by converting random quanta into pure damage depending on the opponent's mark...

@kevkev60614: the art is a placeholder for now, but it still looks pretty nonetheless . I only do 'art' pieces of card ideas that are SUPER well-detailed and analyzed by the card maker, but have no image whatsoever.

[ManOfManySpoons]

I am not talking about converting quanta into damage at all.  An example:

Opponent is playing Golem rush with earth mark.  Has 4 Golems on the field.  As those 4 golems hit you, 4 random quantum of theirs are converted from whatever element they were in to Earth. 

Trying to pose an example, I think my idea should be ignored.  It would actually be more helpful than harmful in a lot of cases (fractal phoenix, Pharoah w/grav mark, even the golem example in many cases).  Maybe a higher number of quantum conversion, but then it risks being too disruptive. 

[kev]

I am not talking about converting quanta into damage at all.  An example:

Opponent is playing Golem rush with earth mark.  Has 4 Golems on the field.  As those 4 golems hit you, 4 random quantum of theirs are converted from whatever element they were in to Earth. 

Trying to pose an example, I think my idea should be ignored.  It would actually be more helpful than harmful in a lot of cases (fractal phoenix, Pharoah w/grav mark, even the golem example in many cases).  Maybe a higher number of quantum conversion, but then it risks being too disruptive.

I misunderstood your original post.  I thought you were saying if you took 20 damage from 4 Golems, 20 of opponent's random quantum would be converted to earth.  I thought that might be overpowered.  What you posed above is underpowered.  Incidentally, I considered both before I settled on what I wrote.

I dunno.  Transferring 20 to earth might not be bad if earth is part of the random quantum selection.  Example: if opponent has 50 each of fire and earth and no other quantum, on average 10 fire and 10 earth would be transformed into 20 earth.

Thoughts, anyone?

[kev]

I'd love more feedback here.  Is everyone comfortable with the language Kuro proposed above?  Should I change the mechanics as proposed in the last post?

It's not getting a lot of votes as is, so any suggestions for improvement are appreciated.

[Kuroaitou]

I'd love more feedback here.  Is everyone comfortable with the language Kuro proposed above?  Should I change the mechanics as proposed in the last post?

It's not getting a lot of votes as is, so any suggestions for improvement are appreciated.

Since you haven't changed anything from the original card (including my suggested wording ^^; ), it's hard to give feedback on the same thing, even though there have been ideas already proposed. The major problem after looking at this card is that it's more situational than Discord, because Discord can ruin mono-duo types (converting quanta into things they can't use) as well as rainbow types (transformes their quanta to places they don't need at the moment in the beginning, especially when paired up with Black Hole).

If you're not going to change the wording, try it like this:

"Shield: Reduces damage by 1.
Randomly converts your
opponent's quanta into quanta
of their mark after each attack."

This, again, is still detrimental (because many decks rely on their mark for splashing quanta, rather than having it as a main focus), because you're still GIVING them quanta of the mark they need. Note the highlighted color above in my description - wouldn't it be fun if it actually converted whatever quanta they had into instead? (Or even better, YOUR mark...?)

[kev]

Edited the language, though it looks very unlikely this will get moved to the forge and Air is potentially getting a new shield in Wings.

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