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Crystal Scorpion | Quartz Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26580.msg337906#msg337906
« on: May 21, 2011, 08:49:16 am »


NAME:
Crystal Scorpion
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|1
TEXT:
Add 1 poison counter for each immaterial except this one in play to each successful attack.  Immaterial.
NAME:
Quartz Scorpion
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|2
TEXT:
Add 1 poison counter for each immaterial except this one in play to each successful attack.  Immaterial.
ART:
Scorpion card image, recolored by Thalas
IDEA:
Malebolgia
NOTES:
    [Poison/Turn] = ( [Number of Immaterial Creatures] - 1 ) x [Number of Scorpions]For purposes of possible future effects capable of removing immaterial status and also should this be the host card of a mutant, "Cause poisoning if ingested." should be on the card, but could not fit due to space constraints.[/list]
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    [td]Scorpions (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26416.msg359496#msg359496)
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    Re: Crystal Scorpion | Quartz Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26580.msg337908#msg337908
    « Reply #1 on: May 21, 2011, 08:57:10 am »
    OP. Imagine this.

    You have 24 Aether Quanta.  In hand: 3 Immortal, 3 Crystal Scorpion.

    You play all cards. 9 poison damage + 12 Normal damage. 21 damage first turn, 30 next, 39 next. Very OP.

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    Re: Crystal Scorpion | Quartz Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26580.msg337953#msg337953
    « Reply #2 on: May 21, 2011, 12:20:02 pm »
    You can expect to have something pretty powerful from 24 quanta. That takes a while to build up. Miracle is 12 or 15 quanta. (And  don't think poison damages on the first turn)
    This is my favorite scorpion so far, because it counts the immortal creatures to poison. So if you have six of these out and nothing else, there will be no poison?

    Re: Crystal Scorpion | Quartz Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26580.msg337968#msg337968
    « Reply #3 on: May 21, 2011, 01:31:16 pm »
    no, 30 poison. 5 per scorp, 6 scorps.

    Table:
    1: 0 poison/turn. 0 poison x 1 scorp
    2: 2 poison/turn. 1 poison x 2 scorps
    3: 6 poison/turn. 2 poison x 3 scorps
    4: 12 poison/turn. 3 poison x 4 scorps
    5: 20 poison/turn. 4 poison x 5 scorps
    6: 30 poison/turn. 5 poison x 6 scorps

    The formula is: PT = ( I - 1 ) x CS, where PT is poison/turn, I is imortal creatures, and CS is crystal scorps. So, as an example:

    6 crystal scorps, 6 Immortals, and 6 Phase Dragons:

    PT = (18 - 1) x 6
    PT = ( 17 ) x 6
    PT = 102 poison damage per turn. Very painful.

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    Re: Crystal Scorpion | Quartz Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26580.msg338057#msg338057
    « Reply #4 on: May 21, 2011, 05:17:06 pm »
    hmm, others have shown that this is OP
    but in many ways this is UP
    There is no way to boost this card, so a measly 1 cost shield can ruin the entire strategy

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    Re: Crystal Scorpion | Quartz Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26580.msg338067#msg338067
    « Reply #5 on: May 21, 2011, 05:28:08 pm »
    To get this balanced, either increase the cost by a whole lot, make it so the poison doesn't stack.
    Example: Immortal x2 + Crystal Scorpion x3 = 6 poison. +1 Crystal Scorpion = 7 poison. NOT 6 poison + 7 poison, but +1 poison = 7 poison.

    Only the first scorpion out counts for the poison multiplier. That way it's not so OP.
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    Re: Crystal Scorpion | Quartz Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26580.msg338071#msg338071
    « Reply #6 on: May 21, 2011, 05:32:27 pm »
    Or, change the rate of poison damage to 1 poison for each 2 immortal creatures
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    Re: Crystal Scorpion | Quartz Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26580.msg341873#msg341873
    « Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 05:41:40 am »
    You guys are forgetting how expensive immaterial creatures are, and that it takes a while to get that quanta.  Not only that, but you are likely going to want to have some other cards in there.  Perhaps a slight cost increase, but i don't feel it is going to be that big.
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    Re: Crystal Scorpion | Quartz Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26580.msg342027#msg342027
    « Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 01:54:37 pm »
    Truthfully, this would mainly have use in mono aether, possibly time w/aether, because throwing in 6 quints won't increase the damage output enough
    Also can I repeat, that this is Completely Killed by a single 1 cost shield, you see it? you can't do anything

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    Re: Crystal Scorpion | Quartz Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26580.msg345996#msg345996
    « Reply #9 on: June 04, 2011, 06:19:13 pm »
    Oh did I forget to mention this card LOVES Lionheart?
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