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Weight Potion | Weight Elixir https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1097830#msg1097830
« on: September 18, 2013, 08:32:51 pm »
NAME:
Weight Potion
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creature gains -5/+5.
Cannot reduce attack power below 1.
NAME:
Weight Elixir
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creature gains -6/+6.
Cannot reduce attack power below 1.

ART:
Rage Potion art, tweaked by GrimDragon32
IDEA:
GrimDragon32
NOTES:
If a creature has less than 5 attack points, it gains the amount of atk lost, minus 1.
Example: Horned Frog is 3 | 3. When applied Weight pot, it becomes 1 | 6.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: November 25, 2013, 12:19:25 am by grimdragon64 »
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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1097833#msg1097833
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2013, 09:22:49 pm »
The name sounds kind of silly ;D
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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1097837#msg1097837
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2013, 09:39:39 pm »
Al-Khazini, (1121) differentiated force, mass and weight as separate properties.

could follow scientist theme of other cards in game: Al-Khazini's Manipulation

also, this could be used as a form of CC, or provide protection to CC in same way Plate Armor would provide (with a larger draw back of course)

possible synergy with any creatures that would be around 8 damage with an on-attack effect paired with adrenaline (providing an extra attack or maximizing adrenaline's damage)

IMO, upgraded version should have 3 :gravity cost since the effect may be less preferable in some situations, such as reducing your creature's damage even more (and very minor change from unupped in some other situations, such as only providing 1 extra life to the creature)

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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1097840#msg1097840
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2013, 10:17:45 pm »
The name sounds kind of silly ;D
LOL, I know. The two names I came up with are Potion of Fatness or Obesity, any better names would be accepted.  :D
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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1097845#msg1097845
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2013, 11:05:10 pm »

 LOL, I know. The two names I came up with are Potion of Fatness or Obesity, any better names would be accepted.  :D

Al-Khazini, (1121) differentiated force, mass and weight as separate properties.

could follow scientist theme of other cards in game: Al-Khazini's Manipulation

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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1097851#msg1097851
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2013, 11:27:44 pm »
I think the idea of this card is great, it caused me to go learn stuff about gravity on wikipedia too :D

I was looking at the page on density, maybe the name density would suit it if you felt like ditching the elixir part, or there is the element with the highest density osmium.

I also like the synergy it has with the whole gravity element, you could use it to buff up your otyugh or make an enemy to fat to hit you through gravity sheild. Nice card!


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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1097852#msg1097852
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2013, 11:29:53 pm »
What about calling it something like 'Ball and Chain'?  Also, nice idea, whatever the name you choose.

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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1097854#msg1097854
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2013, 11:35:47 pm »
Aright, then, some questions.

1) What happens if I use this on a creature with 3 attack and 3 health? Will the HP go up by 5 as mentioned and the attack will only reach 1, effectively making it a 1/8, or will the HP go up by only 2 since the attack only goes down by 2?

2) If the attack can't go lower than 1, what happens if I use this on a creature like Otyugh, that starts with 0 attack? Will it maintain 0 attack and gain 5 HP, gain no HP and no attack difference, or will it have it's attack changed to 1 since the card makes it so it cannot go lower than 1?

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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1097886#msg1097886
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2013, 04:34:42 am »
Hm.. half the cost of AM, thrice the cost of Plate Armor/Heavy Armor and +1 cost from Rage Pot. I'm not sure if this cost is balanced, but I can say that even with this cost it'd be used a lot in Gravity/Earth, Gravity/Light or with Gravity and any DR shield really. It makes the Other Shield a lot better for Gravity, which is kind of like a roundabout way of giving Gravity a better shield than Gravity Shield.
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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1097888#msg1097888
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2013, 04:39:36 am »
Once you target a creature with this, it won't be able to bypass a gravity shield anyway, unless it has momentum or sofree, in which case a DR shield won't help either.

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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1098301#msg1098301
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2013, 01:22:49 am »
IMO, upgraded version should have 3 :gravity cost since the effect may be less preferable in some situations, such as reducing your creature's damage even more (and very minor change from unupped in some other situations, such as only providing 1 extra life to the creature)
I'll take your idea of upped cost 3. Name was a little long though, and I didn't like how the name's font size looked on the card.


Aright, then, some questions.

1) What happens if I use this on a creature with 3 attack and 3 health? Will the HP go up by 5 as mentioned and the attack will only reach 1, effectively making it a 1/8, or will the HP go up by only 2 since the attack only goes down by 2?

2) If the attack can't go lower than 1, what happens if I use this on a creature like Otyugh, that starts with 0 attack? Will it maintain 0 attack and gain 5 HP, gain no HP and no attack difference, or will it have it's attack changed to 1 since the card makes it so it cannot go lower than 1?

1) Okay, I actually hadn't thought of that, but more people thought of it as the first option, so well, first option.
2)Maintain 0 ATK, gain 5 HP. gain 1 HP.



BTW, I hought of another name, Potion of Heaviness. Sorry xyan and dragonsdemesne.
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Re: Potion of Obesity | Elixir of Obesity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51215.msg1098542#msg1098542
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2013, 01:27:51 am »
Would work better as "Iron Ball" or some other name, as :gravity already has an alchemy card (Black hole is technically alchemy, as the alchemy card is used by the nymph of that element)

 

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