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Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075478#msg1075478
« on: May 29, 2013, 10:36:27 pm »
NAME:
Wall of Fire
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
6 :fire
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Each turn for 5 turns:
Non :fire creatures gain +0|-1
All :fire creatures gain +1|-1
NAME:
Deadly Flames
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
5 :fire
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Each turn for 5 turns:
Non :fire creatures gain +0|-1
All :fire creatures gain +1|-1

ART:
http://jjenkinsphotography.deviantart.com/art/Wall-of-Fire-136317956
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Damage goes to all creatures. 6th edit of the card.
Disappears after 5 turns. Not sure if that is the correct number though.

First generation: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,30079.msg382425.html#msg382425
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« Last Edit: July 07, 2013, 03:23:52 pm by Dominator497 »

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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075493#msg1075493
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2013, 11:10:15 pm »
So... a super expensive version of fire shield, that hurts your own guys. What is the point of this? Also, shields are not spells.

Good idea, but needs some work.

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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075525#msg1075525
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2013, 12:19:42 am »
How is that? I made the change I was talking about in the extra comments of the card

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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075530#msg1075530
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2013, 12:32:27 am »
Spells:
Permanents:

Compare to any of the above cards. I don't see much of a reason to use yours to be honest. Expansive + affecting your own creatures.
As you said, there are certain circumstances where you may want to kill your own creatures, but that's not very often. If I am so worried about a creature affecting me negatively, I'd rather put quint in my deck.
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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075532#msg1075532
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2013, 12:44:48 am »
humm, the best defense is attack, I prefer to use RoF.
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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075538#msg1075538
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013, 01:07:50 am »
Compare to any of the above cards. I don't see much of a reason to use yours to be honest. Expansive + affecting your own creatures.
As you said, there are certain circumstances where you may want to kill your own creatures, but that's not very often. If I am so worried about a creature affecting me negatively, I'd rather put quint in my deck.

So should I lower cost, and make it easier to use? Maybe 6 :fire and 2 or 3  :air ?

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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075709#msg1075709
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 05:12:43 pm »
Right now, this doesn't seem to do much different than fire buckler really. It needs something that sets it apart...
What if you did something like: "Shield: Reduces damage by 1. All non :fire creatures gain +0|-1 each turn, all :fire creatures gain +1|-1 each turn."
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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075728#msg1075728
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 07:01:55 pm »
Right now, this doesn't seem to do much different than fire buckler really. It needs something that sets it apart...
What if you did something like: "Shield: Reduces damage by 1. All non :fire creatures gain +0|-1 each turn, all :fire creatures gain +1|-1 each turn."

Do you think it is still worth limiting turn number? or not?

I'll also lower cost to play

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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075749#msg1075749
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 08:37:16 pm »
Interesting, now it's a mass acceleration for 5 turns. Does it disappear after 5 turns, or just turn into a regular shield?

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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075822#msg1075822
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2013, 01:21:47 am »
Interesting, now it's a mass acceleration for 5 turns. Does it disappear after 5 turns, or just turn into a regular shield?

Disappear. Adding to notes


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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075834#msg1075834
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2013, 01:45:24 am »
... hmmm. The card would make more sense if you removed the 'blocks 1 damage'

It not only fits better, it works better too ;D

The only problem I see at the moment is that all fire creatures have extremely low HP...

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Re: Wall of Fire | Deadly Flames https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49564.msg1075837#msg1075837
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2013, 01:48:35 am »
I agree with skyironsword. The effect of damaging both sides of the field doesn't really fit with the image of a shield.

If used properly, this card might even be slightly OP now :D
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