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Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg338588#msg338588
« on: May 22, 2011, 04:06:58 pm »
NAME:
Vow of Purity
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
2 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
-
TEXT:
Players may only gain quanta matching their Mark.
Lasts one turn.
NAME:
Vow of Loyalty
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
-
TEXT:
Players may only gain quanta matching their Mark.
Lasts two turns.
ART:
Card art found in this thread. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5998.0.html)
Original source: sxc.hu (http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1182568)
Edited a bit.
IDEA:
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NOTES:
All pillars and pendulums producing quanta of any other kind do not produce any quanta while this is in play.
Nova grants only a single quanta matching your mark, and supernova grants two quanta matching your mark. Same for Immolation (if your mark is Fire, you gain the full :fire quanta, but no off-element quanta).
Devourers absorb quanta, but if your mark is not Darkness, they do not give :darkness in return.
To be noted that due to how Sundial works, this would affect TWO of the owner's turns, instead of one. Unless you play this before playing any other quanta producer.
SERIES:
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Loyalty and Purity fit thematically. Be loyal to your Mark or pay consequences!
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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg338701#msg338701
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 08:15:14 pm »
I like this idea really nice, an supports mono decks

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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg338705#msg338705
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 08:21:40 pm »
Interesting. The passive nature of the denial resembles Light. I am not sure about how powerful it is.
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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg338708#msg338708
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 08:30:47 pm »
This would be kind of cool. I like the idea of helping mono decks out [even though it is only for light in this case].
+It's something new and refreshing.

edit: +I don't think this is too powerful.

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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg338709#msg338709
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2011, 08:32:33 pm »
Very interesting. I would rather have it be worded such that the absolute value of quanta coming in would stay the same but match their elemental mark. I think that might be a bit more balanced.

The card as it is can seriously slap some decks in a shocking way.

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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg338726#msg338726
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2011, 08:56:25 pm »
Very interesting. I would rather have it be worded such that the absolute value of quanta coming in would stay the same but match their elemental mark. I think that might be a bit more balanced.
+1 to this.
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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg338729#msg338729
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2011, 08:58:16 pm »
Very interesting. I would rather have it be worded such that the absolute value of quanta coming in would stay the same but match their elemental mark. I think that might be a bit more balanced.
+1 to this.
That change could put the upped version to 3 :light IMO.

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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg338735#msg338735
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2011, 09:04:56 pm »
Very interesting. I would rather have it be worded such that the absolute value of quanta coming in would stay the same but match their elemental mark. I think that might be a bit more balanced.
+1 to this.
Wait, it would have to exclude creature and spell based quanta from its effects.
Rustler <- 3 :light -> Vow of Purity, Light Mark
2 :light -> Vow of Purity, Nova, Any Mark
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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg338770#msg338770
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2011, 09:54:20 pm »
Yeah, well, the point wasn't to strengthen monos - as that would require this to cost random quanta, and while that could be an idea for the upped version it is not the case - the point was to give Light a quanta disrupting tool. This can hamper any non-mono deck quite seriously, but the effect it has on novabows and immorushes is terrible. That is intended as I like variety and I would like to see more intresting decks be used rather than rush muscle fights. Reducing the power of nova and immolation is part of the charme this card had in my mind. If that is seen as a bad idea, I can change it to:
"Pillars and Pendulums produce quanta matching their owner's Mark"

But that still leaves Quantum Pillars. I don't think it's a good idea overall, I prefer just stopping quanta production altogether.
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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg338825#msg338825
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2011, 12:26:10 am »
Yeah, well, the point wasn't to strengthen monos - as that would require this to cost random quanta, and while that could be an idea for the upped version it is not the case - the point was to give Light a quanta disrupting tool. This can hamper any non-mono deck quite seriously, but the effect it has on novabows and immorushes is terrible. That is intended as I like variety and I would like to see more intresting decks be used rather than rush muscle fights. Reducing the power of nova and immolation is part of the charme this card had in my mind. If that is seen as a bad idea, I can change it to:
"Pillars and Pendulums produce quanta matching their owner's Mark"

But that still leaves Quantum Pillars. I don't think it's a good idea overall, I prefer just stopping quanta production altogether.
"Elemental Permanents produce quanta matching their owner's main Mark. Lasts one/two turn(s)."

Considers: pillars, pendula, soulcatchers, mark cards.
Excludes: cremation, rustler, supernova.

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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg339033#msg339033
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2011, 11:07:13 am »
Yeah, well, the point wasn't to strengthen monos - as that would require this to cost random quanta, and while that could be an idea for the upped version it is not the case - the point was to give Light a quanta disrupting tool. This can hamper any non-mono deck quite seriously, but the effect it has on novabows and immorushes is terrible. That is intended as I like variety and I would like to see more intresting decks be used rather than rush muscle fights. Reducing the power of nova and immolation is part of the charme this card had in my mind. If that is seen as a bad idea, I can change it to:
"Pillars and Pendulums produce quanta matching their owner's Mark"

But that still leaves Quantum Pillars. I don't think it's a good idea overall, I prefer just stopping quanta production altogether.
"Elemental Permanents produce quanta matching their owner's main Mark. Lasts one/two turn(s)."

Considers: pillars, pendula, soulcatchers, mark cards.
Excludes: cremation, rustler, supernova.

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That still leaves the problem of Quantum Pillars producing 3x quanta of your chosen element and as I said I kind of wanted it to slaughter nova and immo.
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Re: Vow of Purity | Vow of Loyalty https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26641.msg339443#msg339443
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2011, 05:10:04 am »
Yeah, well, the point wasn't to strengthen monos - as that would require this to cost random quanta, and while that could be an idea for the upped version it is not the case - the point was to give Light a quanta disrupting tool. This can hamper any non-mono deck quite seriously, but the effect it has on novabows and immorushes is terrible. That is intended as I like variety and I would like to see more intresting decks be used rather than rush muscle fights. Reducing the power of nova and immolation is part of the charme this card had in my mind. If that is seen as a bad idea, I can change it to:
"Pillars and Pendulums produce quanta matching their owner's Mark"

But that still leaves Quantum Pillars. I don't think it's a good idea overall, I prefer just stopping quanta production altogether.
"Elemental Permanents produce quanta matching their owner's main Mark. Lasts one/two turn(s)."

Considers: pillars, pendula, soulcatchers, mark cards.
Excludes: cremation, rustler, supernova.

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