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Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1110336#msg1110336
« on: November 19, 2013, 02:24:30 am »
NAME:
Vase of Shifting Shadows
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
3 :darkness
TYPE:
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ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:entropy :entropy : Siphon 1 to 9 max hp from target player or creature to yourself. One random card is discarded from your deck.
NAME:
Urn of Swirling Darkness
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
3 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:entropy :entropy : Siphon 3 to 8 max hp from target player or creature to yourself. One random card is discarded from your deck.

ART:
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NOTES:
"Secrets and misdirection will rule the day today."

"Darkness is a most horrific weapon. It consumes both body and soul, user and victim. It will of you great power, but do you dare to risk its embrace?"



Meant as a nice supplement to SoV. It has a much higher cost for use, but is much more versatile.

Siphoning max HP is non-lethal. It will never reduce the target below 1 max hp.

Still not sure what a good range / average max HP drain should be. Balancing input would be welcome there.

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« Last Edit: November 19, 2013, 02:26:09 am by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1110339#msg1110339
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2013, 02:55:36 am »
Why would you ever want to siphon yourself?

Also, why doesn't it just read "...from target"

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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1110354#msg1110354
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 04:27:03 am »
Why would you ever want to siphon yourself?

Also, why doesn't it just read "...from target"
I was just making sure people knew you could target the opponent or any creature in play...
I don't think there is a reason to target yourself with this... since it would do nothing except make you discard a random card from your deck.
Whether the glass is half full or half empty is a moot point. It is always filled to the brim. It is only a matter of by what. The real question is: What fills you?
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kill -9 `ps l | awk '{print $2" "$3" "$9}' | grep "Z" | awk '{printf("%s ",$2)}'`
You might be a unix junky

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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1110366#msg1110366
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 06:13:02 am »
Does a reflective shield reflect this effect?

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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1110369#msg1110369
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2013, 06:53:19 am »
Why entropy? Is this too make it less powerfull (as a mono) or just to make lycnathrope/werewolf easier to balance in a deck? I assume they would not stack, (due to the activation required) and due to the risk of EA, is this a correct assumption?

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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1110375#msg1110375
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2013, 07:56:35 am »
Why entropy? Is this too make it less powerfull (as a mono) or just to make lycnathrope/werewolf easier to balance in a deck? I assume they would not stack, (due to the activation required) and due to the risk of EA, is this a correct assumption?
I picked entropy since I wanted an element of chance in the drain level. It also does help in balancing since the ability, on average deals a significant amount of drain compared to other CC effects (5 unupped and 5.5 upped)

The permanent does not stack, although you could certainly use more than one on the same target in a given turn.

Thematically, I think that reflective shield should not reflect this effect since it does not reflect shard of void... On the other hand, it would help make reflective shield more valuable if it did... I could go either way really.

Whether the glass is half full or half empty is a moot point. It is always filled to the brim. It is only a matter of by what. The real question is: What fills you?
If your zombie plan is
kill -9 `ps l | awk '{print $2" "$3" "$9}' | grep "Z" | awk '{printf("%s ",$2)}'`
You might be a unix junky

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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1110425#msg1110425
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2013, 06:22:07 pm »
interesting and balanced
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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1110469#msg1110469
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2013, 09:19:41 pm »
Generally, when a card says target, it means players too. Buff cards being the obvious exception.


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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1111092#msg1111092
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2013, 11:02:19 pm »
Why entropy? Is this too make it less powerfull (as a mono) or just to make lycnathrope/werewolf easier to balance in a deck? I assume they would not stack, (due to the activation required) and due to the risk of EA, is this a correct assumption?
I picked entropy since I wanted an element of chance in the drain level. It also does help in balancing since the ability, on average deals a significant amount of drain compared to other CC effects (5 unupped and 5.5 upped)

The permanent does not stack, although you could certainly use more than one on the same target in a given turn.

Thematically, I think that reflective shield should not reflect this effect since it does not reflect shard of void... On the other hand, it would help make reflective shield more valuable if it did... I could go either way really.

A agree that reflective shields should not reflect this. The card idea is a pot of pure darkness, good luck trying to reflect the absence of light ?_?

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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1111144#msg1111144
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2013, 04:44:50 am »
+ Rep for the art :)
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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1111149#msg1111149
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2013, 05:29:10 am »
Thanks!...
Its actually just a mod of a previous card art I made:

But I like how this touch up came out a bit better than the original.
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Re: Vase of Shifting Shadows | Urn of Swirling Darkness https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52417.msg1111154#msg1111154
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2013, 05:51:20 am »
Thanks!...
Its actually just a mod of a previous card art I made:

But I like how this touch up came out a bit better than the original.

Still amazing :) Nice art created by the player himself deserves acclaim :)
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