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Re: Remove | Relinquish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23788.msg303493#msg303493
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2011, 10:27:15 pm »
Honestly I don't think that would matter.  People can just run duo decks; though it's not as easy/convenient to pull off as if it were mono-darkness or mono-time, it will still be effective.
Interesting concept, but couldn't this in a sense be an insta-kill for 3/2 quanta?

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Re: Remove | Relinquish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23788.msg303621#msg303621
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2011, 02:07:53 am »
Honestly I don't think that would matter.  People can just run duo decks; though it's not as easy/convenient to pull off as if it were mono-darkness or mono-time, it will still be effective.
Interesting concept, but couldn't this in a sense be an insta-kill for 3/2 quanta?
of course not, unless you keep spamming it on the opponent when they have no cards in their  hand + nightmare, but still i dont see why you question that if this is insta kill, its only removing cards from your opponents hand.
and you can only do it like 6 six times.

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Re: Remove | Relinquish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23788.msg303639#msg303639
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2011, 02:34:05 am »
Honestly I don't think that would matter.  People can just run duo decks; though it's not as easy/convenient to pull off as if it were mono-darkness or mono-time, it will still be effective.
Interesting concept, but couldn't this in a sense be an insta-kill for 3/2 quanta?
Yes, it's not instant kill, it's small instant denial. Small enough that it's no more OP than steal or some other denial card.
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Re: Remove | Relinquish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23788.msg303645#msg303645
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2011, 02:55:31 am »
It is similar to instant kill, but with minor differences.  Your opponent never paid the quanta to cast whatever they discard, and it may not be what you want to kill.  Maybe you have a Hope and a stack of pillars, and you force them to discard a Steal, or you have a couple Voodoo Dolls and force them to discard a Rain of Fire.

On the other hand, it could be a Hope that you force them to discard, making it more powerful than Steal in that instance.  Tough to say what it should cost, really.  Especially since if it is introduced into the metagame, and you know your opponent has them, you might hold a pillar in your hand if you don't need the quanta later in the game.

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Re: Remove | Relinquish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23788.msg303646#msg303646
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2011, 03:04:47 am »
It is similar to instant kill, but with minor differences.  Your opponent never paid the quanta to cast whatever they discard, and it may not be what you want to kill.  Maybe you have a Hope and a stack of pillars, and you force them to discard a Steal, or you have a couple Voodoo Dolls and force them to discard a Rain of Fire.

On the other hand, it could be a Hope that you force them to discard, making it more powerful than Steal in that instance.  Tough to say what it should cost, really.  Especially since if it is introduced into the metagame, and you know your opponent has them, you might hold a pillar in your hand if you don't need the quanta later in the game.
pretty much, though you'd only know that for sure when you see that they have an  :entropy mark.
but Instakill is as totally different concept overall, I find that  its pointless classifying this card as such, your only discarding cards from your opponents hand, the only thing its lethal to is their strategy, even if the strategy uses miracles.

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Re: Remove | Relinquish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23788.msg303932#msg303932
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2011, 04:14:45 pm »
(Sorry for double post)
is this ready for crucible?

anything about cost balance? etc?

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Re: Remove | Relinquish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23788.msg304019#msg304019
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2011, 06:41:04 pm »
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Re: Remove | Relinquish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23788.msg304097#msg304097
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2011, 07:51:26 pm »
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