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Unstable Hourglass | Broken Hourglass https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468330#msg468330
« on: March 07, 2012, 02:03:26 am »
NAME:
Unstable Hourglass
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
4 :time
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
If destroyed, this card returns to top of your deck and deal 13 damage to opponent.
:time : (Sacrifice card)
NAME:
Broken Hourglass
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
4 :time
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
If destroyed, this card returns to top of your deck and deal 16 damage to opponent.
:time : (Sacrifice card)
ART:
Original Image ( by ESO/L. Calçada)  : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_material_around_SN_1987A.jpg
IDEA:
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NOTES:
New version of Echo flame | Eternal flame.

Changes :

1. The chaining ability is removed for simplicity.

2. This card is now a permanent instead of a spell based on thematic issue and under the consideration that Time has already had a effective CC spell

3. The new card functions similar to Unstable Gas. The damage cannot be blocked by any shield. This card is weaker than UG and may clog your deck but it is unaffected by PC and is reusable
SERIES:

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NAME:
Echo Flame
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
3 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 3 damage to target, then return to top of deck if deck size > 5.  For each successive use in one turn, +2 damage.
NAME:
Eternal Flame
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
3 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 2 damage to target, then return to top of deck if deck size > 5.  For each successive use in one turn, +3 damage.
ART:
Original Picture(by Fir0002) : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fire02.jpg
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Flame that can burn forever until the end of time

It never stops and it never ends. The only change happening to it is the ever brighter and hotter flame.

Synergy with hourglasses/sundial/precognition. Since it prevents you from drawing the next card, you need extra card drawing to offset the side effect.

Yet, successive uses increases the power of the flame. If you use your hourglasses/sundial/precognition to get it back, you may use it again and have fun with the extra damage.

Probably need a lower cost. But at the same time it gives you card advantage (it can be used infinite times), so I don't know how to balance this card

Pay caution when you are about to set off the fire
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« Last Edit: April 15, 2012, 02:44:45 am by waterzx »

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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468337#msg468337
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 02:32:08 am »
in general, it is probably a good idea to avoid putting "fire"/"flame"/etc in the name of a card outside of fire- unless it has a strong tie in to the element (costing fire quanta or directly benefitting fire cards as apposed to others etc)

the mechanic itself seems like an interesting way to chain a spell for an increased effect, hard to tell if its balanced or not, relative to fire bolt, which costs less and can do variable amounts of damage as well
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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468339#msg468339
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2012, 03:05:52 am »
Hmm im working on a similar idea to this, but in fire, also a bit more powerful(dependant)
As it is now I would say it fairly balanced as unlkess you have multiple copies in hand to begin with, you have to use otehr effects to draw it again.
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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468340#msg468340
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2012, 03:10:49 am »
Hmm im working on a similar idea to this, but in fire, also a bit more powerful(dependant)
As it is now I would say it fairly balanced as unlkess you have multiple copies in hand to begin with, you have to use otehr effects to draw it again.
Having multiple copies will clog your hands :P

in general, it is probably a good idea to avoid putting "fire"/"flame"/etc in the name of a card outside of fire- unless it has a strong tie in to the element (costing fire quanta or directly benefitting fire cards as apposed to others etc)
I might change the name later

How about Echo Strike ?

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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468341#msg468341
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2012, 03:20:38 am »
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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468342#msg468342
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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468343#msg468343
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2012, 03:32:32 am »
did you edit http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fire02.jpg
Yes, one of my favourite pictures
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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468345#msg468345
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2012, 03:38:24 am »
Please credit the source. Mere editing does not change the Author line.
Edited.

I thought that picture was in public domain.

The Art Authur name in the card will be removed in the final version

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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468347#msg468347
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2012, 03:42:33 am »
Please credit the source. Mere editing does not change the Author line.
Edited.

I thought that picture was in public domain.

The Art Authur name in the card will be removed in the final version
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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468348#msg468348
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2012, 03:48:35 am »
The author has permitted that art to be used. The forum requires you credit the author.
Thanks for the clarification.

But any comments on the card itself ?

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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468352#msg468352
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2012, 04:32:55 am »
Having a brief problem understanding what the card does...

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Re: Echo Flame | Eternal Flame https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37290.msg468355#msg468355
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2012, 04:40:24 am »
Having a brief problem understanding what the card does...
play the card --> 3 damage to target

If you use this card again in the same turn, 5 damage to target

Use it the third time in the same turn, 7 damage to target

After each use, the card will return to top of your deck so you can draw it again

 

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