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Unburial Dagger | Unburial Dagger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027884#msg1027884
« on: January 03, 2013, 04:05:22 am »
NAME:
Unburial Dagger
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
5 | 3
TEXT:
Weapon:deal 5 damage at the end of every turn.
Revival: Return creature killed by opponent to your hand.
NAME:
Unburial Dagger
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
7 | 3
TEXT:
Weapon:deal 7 damage at the end of every turn.
Revival: Return creature killed by opponent to your hand.
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Basically, this card is to creatures what the salvagers are to permanents
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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027921#msg1027921
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 05:33:46 am »
However, how would it work?  The Salvagers are passive abilities.  This is an active ability in the sense that you have to pay a cost.

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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027926#msg1027926
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 06:06:28 am »
Do you have the choice of which creature? A Rain of Fire would be a good example of wanting the ability to choose.
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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027928#msg1027928
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 06:16:35 am »
Assumed last creature revived, with the mechanics being the same with Salvagers. The only different things are this affects creature and it's active.
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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027930#msg1027930
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 06:24:01 am »
However, how would it work?  The Salvagers are passive abilities.  This is an active ability in the sense that you have to pay a cost.

theyre passive? last i saw they were an off element activated ability

Do you have the choice of which creature? A Rain of Fire would be a good example of wanting the ability to choose.
no choice, rain of fire kills in a specific order.
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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027935#msg1027935
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2013, 06:29:11 am »
Do you have the choice of which creature? A Rain of Fire would be a good example of wanting the ability to choose.
no choice, rain of fire kills in a specific order.
But doesn't Lightning Storm kills them in a same time?
(example: Vulture(0|1) and Skeleton(1|1) -> both die, Skeleton(1|1) and Vulture(0|1) -> both die)
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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027936#msg1027936
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2013, 06:34:11 am »
Do you have the choice of which creature? A Rain of Fire would be a good example of wanting the ability to choose.
no choice, rain of fire kills in a specific order.
But doesn't Lightning Storm kills them in a same time?
(example: Vulture(0|1) and Skeleton(1|1) -> both die, Skeleton(1|1) and Vulture(0|1) -> both die)
lightning storm might, im pretty sure firestorn hits one at a time though. not sure how the code would decide in the case.
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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027958#msg1027958
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 08:20:16 am »
Do you have the choice of which creature? A Rain of Fire would be a good example of wanting the ability to choose.
no choice, rain of fire kills in a specific order.
But doesn't Lightning Storm kills them in a same time?
(example: Vulture(0|1) and Skeleton(1|1) -> both die, Skeleton(1|1) and Vulture(0|1) -> both die)
lightning storm might, im pretty sure firestorn hits one at a time though. not sure how the code would decide in the case.
in Lightning Storm's case, do you have the choice of which creature?
I see random is enough
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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027964#msg1027964
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2013, 09:03:43 am »
While everything is destroyed at once, I have a feeling only one thing is placed into the "last thing destroyed" list; thus, there is no need for randomness or choice.

Salvagers now add the permanent to your hand.

What would the restored creatures stats be?

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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027966#msg1027966
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2013, 09:13:20 am »
While everything is destroyed at once, I have a feeling only one thing is placed into the "last thing destroyed" list; thus, there is no need for randomness or choice.

Salvagers now add the permanent to your hand.

What would the restored creatures stats be?

Among that many creatures died at once, what creature should placed into the "last thing destroyed" list?
Random?
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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1027967#msg1027967
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2013, 09:15:26 am »
While everything is destroyed at once, I have a feeling only one thing is placed into the "last thing destroyed" list; thus, there is no need for randomness or choice.

Salvagers now add the permanent to your hand.

What would the restored creatures stats be?

Among that many creatures died at once, what creature should placed into the "last thing destroyed" list?
Random?
Probably the one that would always attack last.

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Re: Unburial | Unburial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45590.msg1028077#msg1028077
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 06:45:15 pm »
While everything is destroyed at once, I have a feeling only one thing is placed into the "last thing destroyed" list; thus, there is no need for randomness or choice.

Salvagers now add the permanent to your hand.

What would the restored creatures stats be?

Among that many creatures died at once, what creature should placed into the "last thing destroyed" list?
Random?

With AoE spells, the creature in the last slot is the last to be affected and thus would be the last to be killed if it is.

 

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