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Tree-Dwelling | Tree-Dwelling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429274#msg429274
« on: November 22, 2011, 05:46:51 pm »
NAME:
Tree-Dwelling
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
7 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
All of your identical creatures
without abilities are stacked on the
same location.
NAME:
Tree-Dwelling
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
All of your identical creatures
without abilities are stacked on the
same location.
ART:
Adapted from a photograph at: http://www.morguefile.com/archive/display/67999
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Each type of creature receives its own stack.
Does not stack creatures that came into play, prior to using this card.
Does not stack your creatures after it is destroyed / stolen, although already
stacked creatures will remain so.

The amount of creatures in a stack would be signified by a small number on the top creature.
Anything that targets a creature will only hit the one at the top of the stack.
If the top creature takes damage or receives a new ability etc. it is moved off
the stack to it's own spot, thus only completely identical creatures remain stacked.
If no spots are available when a creature falls off the stack, the creature simply dies.
SERIES:

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Re: Overgrowth | Overgrowth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429275#msg429275
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2011, 05:49:16 pm »
I looked around and didn't see any other versions of this card, but it really wouldn't surprise me if someone
else has already had this idea. Please let me know if it's already been done before.

I look forward to reading your opinions and possibly making this card even better.

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Re: Overgrowth | Overgrowth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429281#msg429281
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2011, 06:13:53 pm »
the name has been used before, but i dont know of any creature stacking cards off the top of my head.  this card mechanic screams out to be abused, though.
moose dont say moo.

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Re: Overgrowth | Overgrowth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429282#msg429282
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2011, 06:17:28 pm »
Are there any ways to abuse this card that you can think of which might be game-breaking?
If so, I may be able to work in a downside or two on this card to prevent/counteract them.

I actually just thought of 1 way it could be abused. Using hope shield and FFQ or just fractal
photons with light would provide an invincible shield powered by creatures that could only
be killed one at a time. This is undesirable, but I have a couple ideas to fix it.

1 - only creatures with no abilities (active or passive) can stack
2 - only life creatures can stack

I think either solution could theoretically work, but I'm not sure which is better...

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Re: Overgrowth | Overgrowth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429294#msg429294
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2011, 06:50:30 pm »
PUing a stack of creatures and/or fractal/mitosis of low cost/free creatures are what jump to mind right away.
moose dont say moo.

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Re: Tree-Dwelling | Tree-Dwelling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429307#msg429307
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2011, 07:20:57 pm »
Ok, I have changed the name and card-art to be more unique.

I have also edited the card to prevent any abuse with hope shields
or creatures that have butterfly effect etc. Also devourers cannot be protected by stacking
them the way the card is now.

I'm not really worried about PU or mitosis because they will only effect the creature on top,
so no copying entire stacks at a time, just one creature as per usual. Also, buffing the stack
with something like blessing will apply only to the top creature and it will then be moved
where it is vulnerable (unless you buff a second one that will then stack on top of it's identical sibling)

I am certainly glad to spot these flaws and correct them early. Please continue to point them out.

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Re: Tree-Dwelling | Tree-Dwelling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429347#msg429347
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2011, 09:10:44 pm »
RoF, fire buckler any aoe spells will affect only top creature of the stack?

Apart from increasing board size >23 creatures giving "hide" is a bit OP. Anything that manipulates the board fascinats me though, nice idea

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Re: Tree-Dwelling | Tree-Dwelling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429401#msg429401
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2011, 10:50:10 pm »
RoF, fire buckler any aoe spells will affect only top creature of the stack?

Apart from increasing board size >23 creatures giving "hide" is a bit OP. Anything that manipulates the board fascinats me though, nice idea
Yeah, basically it hinders aoe-CC against the smaller, more useless creatures, but wouldn't be ruined by RoF like cloak is.

It could also potentially allow hundreds of creatures on the board with the right cards and quanta, so too OP perhaps as you
guys have suggested.

 ...Would putting a quanta-drain on it like flooding has, make it more feasible? Perhaps a drain that is somehow proportionate to however many creatures you have stacked - could enforce a 'soft cap' on the size of creature piles? Ideas are welcome.

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Re: Tree-Dwelling | Tree-Dwelling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429477#msg429477
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2011, 01:37:46 am »
I made a slot-stacking card about 1.5 weeks ago. Don't know if i'll finish developing it though. I like yours, for the 'each type of creature' part.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33620.0.html
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Re: Tree-Dwelling | Tree-Dwelling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429665#msg429665
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2011, 12:30:47 pm »
Blast, ...I was afraid someone else would have thought of it already.
Ah well, maybe it just means that good ideas occur more than once (i can hope).

If the ideas are too similar rutarete, I'll take mine down. I don't want to steal anyone's thunder
if they came up with it first. If the two cards can co-exist I'll continue to develop this one though...

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Re: Tree-Dwelling | Tree-Dwelling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429819#msg429819
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2011, 09:22:33 pm »
Keep going with this. Have as much thunder as you want.
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Re: Tree-Dwelling | Tree-Dwelling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34026.msg429821#msg429821
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2011, 09:29:48 pm »
Thanks man.  ;D

Btw, I'm still undecided on whether it should come with a quanta drain or not. I added a poll, so please
vote to share your opinion/s if this card mechanic interests you any.

 

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