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The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212223#msg212223
« on: November 29, 2010, 02:52:09 am »
NAME:
The Damned
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
:darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|21
TEXT:
At the end of the turn The Damned gains +2|-N where N is the number of turns The Damned has been out.
NAME:
The Damned
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
:darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|21
TEXT:
At the end of the turn The Damned gains +2|-N where N is the number of turns The Damned has been out.
ART:
http://gorende-stock.deviantart.com/art/Zombie-26283645 Allowed to use.  Manipulated by Ajit.
IDEA:
Ajit
NOTES:
This card started with the concept of a being that has been cursed, who gains great power, but alas dies in the end due to his deal with the devil.  Also think; a sickness that weakens and eventually kills the being.

Definitely willing to change the name!

Changes:
- Reduced cost
-Changed the mechanic from -1 HP every turn to the N mechanic
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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212250#msg212250
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 03:15:41 am »
Not sure. Graviton Fire Eater has 0 attack, only costs 3, and gains 2 attack with no health reduction (despite costing a different element). I suggest a 2-3 cost reduction.
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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212288#msg212288
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 04:37:16 am »
Great idea for a card.

One small note. The average damage works well for creatures that survive for the rest of the game. (The previous creature I used that metric on could kill the opponent before they died) Creatures that don't survive that long need to include the turns where they deal no damage because they are dead into the equation. Also it is typically better to use the value of similar skills to determine the appropriate cost. Skilled creatures tend to be able to get the same value for lower cost because their potential is vulnerable to lobotomy.

So for this card 7|7 is the maximum that this should cost. However it probably should be reduced in cost some.

This card gains +2|0 and -0|1 per turn otherwise known as a free ablaze per turn and "poisoned".
Ablaze [+3], Generate 1 Quanta (free ablaze) [+1], 5<HP<8 [+1] = 5|3-4 quanta for a non "poisoned" one.
I would guess that "poisoned" reduces the cost by 1 more at least for a maximum of 4|3 :darkness.
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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212290#msg212290
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 04:40:00 am »
Thanks for the input guys I learn something every time.  Reducing the prices.

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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212441#msg212441
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 12:31:43 pm »
Could I possibly lobotomize an instant before the damned hits 0? Then I'd have a high-powered creature that would die by any CC, really, but it might be worth it... Of course, it might be better anyway just to give it a ton of Plate Armor... Oh well. I suppose the damned should have a passive skill that can't be lobo'd.
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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212471#msg212471
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 01:35:08 pm »
basilisk blood + quint and this creature is unstoppable
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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212485#msg212485
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 02:05:26 pm »
basilisk blood + quint and this creature is unstoppable
So would quint + Fire Spectre and a Fire Pillar + Protect Artifact.

However if you were using hyperbole,
The "poisoned" effect can be increased along with the HP to offset these worries.
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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212551#msg212551
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 03:28:25 pm »
Well, extending death isn't unheard of. just like a Lava Golem with quint and earth, this creature can get even more powerful. however, Lava Golem doesn't have to bend to the damned effect. This has its weakness, so it should be fine as is.
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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212557#msg212557
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 03:34:47 pm »
this thing + so many buff will be a bit fun.  i like it!   :))

and with some +status card and adrenaline.  what will happen to this one?

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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212640#msg212640
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2010, 05:55:50 pm »
OK well it sounds back in forth on whether it's OP or not.  I thought of this method though, what do you guys think?



OK so without buffs would work like this:

Att/HP
0/21
2/20
4/18
6/15
8/11
10/6
12/0
Die.

Now say you give it a basilisk blood as soon as you spawn it.

Att/HP
0/41
2/40
4/38
6/35
8/31
10/26
12/20
14/13
16/6
18/0
Die.

Sound better or worse?

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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212665#msg212665
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2010, 06:17:46 pm »
I like the mechanic change however the card wording could be improved

How about
"At the end of the turn The Dammed gains +2|-N where N is the number of turns The Dammed has been out."
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Re: The Damned | The Damned https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16579.msg212680#msg212680
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2010, 06:35:50 pm »
OK I'll change the card to this new method thanks for the help

 

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