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The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1091986#msg1091986
« on: August 11, 2013, 09:53:21 pm »
NAME:
The Abyss of Fire
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
7 :fire
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Once per turn, draw a card when a monster dies
NAME:
The Abyss of Fire
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
6 :fire
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Once per turn, draw a card when a monster dies

ART:
Nabbo
IDEA:
Nabbo
NOTES:
Each Abyss of Fire can draw max 1 card per turn, no matter how many creatures is killed on your turn.
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This is my primary card suggestion, a permanent that lets you draw a card each time a monster is killed.



and a monster that is directly summoned when it is drawn, maybe it would be better suited in  :time but thats the reason i put it in fire, it could be too effective in a time deck.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2013, 03:24:28 am by russianspy1234 »

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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1091992#msg1091992
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2013, 10:14:33 pm »
Imp feels too cheap, especially given the mechanic. It could make a neat combo in a precognition fire rush

I don't think :fire should get draw power. It's already exceptionally fast, and I feel :time should be the faster element. But then there's SoBr... which I hadn't thought've with Imp

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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1092026#msg1092026
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2013, 12:34:30 am »
good cards, solid mechanics. Imp is too strong though, try a 3|2

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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1092107#msg1092107
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2013, 12:51:02 pm »
yeah 3|2 is probably more balanced, and 4|2 for the upped.

Imp feels too cheap, especially given the mechanic. It could make a neat combo in a precognition fire rush

I don't think :fire should get draw power. It's already exceptionally fast, and I feel :time should be the faster element. But then there's SoBr... which I hadn't thought've with Imp

I would personally like more drawing power in many decks and I think The Abyss of Fire would suite both  :fire theme and the  :fire decks
 (destructive power+fireshield+cremation)

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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1092113#msg1092113
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2013, 01:13:19 pm »
Yeah, it would have good combos with fire cards, but the mechanic of The Abyss of Fire isn´t :fire in any way. Benefit from dying creatures? go to  :death ! More card draw power ? go to :time. There isn´t fire.
What's the speed of dark?

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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1092136#msg1092136
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013, 02:00:12 pm »
Shard of Bravery :)

The reason I made it to  :fire, was that I thought it would be to effective in a  :death deck
and I could not get a card like this to sync with any other element than :fire all the other elements have to few ways to kill monsters

Ofcurse your right, drawing is  :time and benefit dying  :death but I dont think this card is to overstep the line (too much).

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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1092149#msg1092149
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 02:41:06 pm »
Otyughs, Sparks, Cats/Demons. Other elements have death effects
How OP is drawing on every death effect, not only once? A perfect Fractal spark would draw 8 cards, but that's the kind of draw power that decks out. Take into account that your opponent could start killing off their own creatures in an attempt to deck you out, and this starts seeming more like the :fire kind of draw power (high risk, high reward)
Note this doesn't change that I don't believe :fire shouldn't get draw power

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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1092231#msg1092231
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013, 09:15:30 pm »
Other elements can cause death effects, but death is thematically the element that benefits from death effects.

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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1092241#msg1092241
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013, 09:58:52 pm »
...In the same way drawing is thematically  :time

but yeah I get you, I just think it would be nice with more cards that gives you the possibility to draw cards.
and I thought I could get it to sync with fire (you need destruktion to draw)

could I get it to work better with the theme if I would modify the card a little,
make the ability cost one  :death or something?

How OP is drawing on every death effect, not only once?
It is only once per turn.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 10:01:04 pm by Nabbo »

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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1092248#msg1092248
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2013, 10:25:54 pm »
anyone consider immolation?
would rather speed up those golem rushes considerably.

photon/immolate/this == more quanta && more stuff to play.
combined with braveshard, it can make fire a very fast element indeed.

consider:
3 Abyss (this)
4 Lava Golem
6 Immo
6 Photon
4 Brave Shard
2 Momentum
2 Quints
2 Defrags
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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1092600#msg1092600
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2013, 08:11:39 pm »
I think it could have a wide usage.

But I think the speed of for a golem rush deck would stay the same, because insted of playing a golem you would need to play your Fire Abyss, ..and you do not get that much quanta from immolations. But on the other hand I dont think its weaker either, so just more variation a win-win situation!

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Re: The Abyss of Fire|The Abyss of Fire + Imp|Imp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50717.msg1093320#msg1093320
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