Temporal Zealot | Temporal Knight

[ZephyrPhantom]

NAME: Temporal Zealot ELEMENT: Time COST: 1 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 5 | 2 TEXT: Backlash : Pay 5 next turn or destroy this card.	NAME: Temporal Knight ELEMENT: Time COST: 1 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 7 | 2 TEXT: Backlash : Pay 5 next turn or destroy this card.

ART: Original Crusader by vrt IDEA: Zblader NOTES: A Time rush card that falls in between Deja Vu and GoTP, sort of like Cockatrice. While it is extremely fast and can be Fractaled for an OTK, you'd better hope the OTK suceeds unless you want an empty field next turn. Backlash checks your quanta and attempts to drain it during the draw phrase instead of during the attack phrase. This prevents Zealot from getting off a second attack unless you've generated the cost beforehand. If you have less than 5 , drain fails and Temporal Zealot dies. Backlash is passive. SERIES:

[Absol]

8 , 9 , 2 cards = 56 damage.
Close enough to UG, if not for the fact that this dies after attacking again next turn.

EDIT: also, loboable?

[ZephyrPhantom]

8 , 9 , 2 cards = 56 damage.
Close enough to UG, if not for the fact that this dies after attacking again next turn.

Right. I forgot to say that Backlash triggers before you attack. (Hence 'pay' instead of 'drain'. When would this happen? During the draw phase.)

EDIT: Not loboable. Backlash = Passive.

[furballdn]

Pay 5 next turn. Wha? That's OP.

If you say "drain 5 before it attacks" what's the difference between just making it cost 6 ?

Also, is drain one time thing or each turn?

[OldTrees]

Pay 5 next turn. Wha? That's OP.

If you say "drain 5 before it attacks" what's the difference between just making it cost 6 ?

Also, is drain one time thing or each turn?

5 damage once for 1 + 1 card
5 attack for 6 + 1 card

[AnonymousRevival]

I find it OP with fractals, even though it would only be effective for one turn.

[OldTrees]

I find it OP with fractals, even though it would only be effective for one turn.

How is it different from Fractal Sparks?

[ARTHANASIOS]

I find it OP with fractals, even though it would only be effective for one turn.

How is it different from Fractal Sparks?

The difference is that Spark is 0 quanta for 3|0 / 5|0 while Temporal Zealot is 5|2 / 7|2 for 1 . Though it seems balanced, Temporal Zealot has an extra ability that Spark doesn't have, which allows it to stay alive. Furthermore, Fractal is not the most powerful combo, but Mitosis. If the first Temporal Zealot has its cost payed, then he can be Mitosised and summon one-time attackers, dealing an extra 5 or 7 damage per turn with just 1 quanta and triggering death effects. On the other hand, Spark can't be combined with Mitosis, except of buffed. Overall, Temporal Zealot/Knight is slightly OP in comparison with Spark IMHO.

[Cheesy111]

I find it OP with fractals, even though it would only be effective for one turn.

How is it different from Fractal Sparks?

The difference is that Spark is 0 quanta for 3|0 / 5|0 while Temporal Zealot is 5|2 / 7|2 for 1 . Though it seems balanced, Temporal Zealot has an extra ability that Spark doesn't have, which allows it to stay alive. Furthermore, Fractal is not the most powerful combo, but Mitosis. If the first Temporal Zealot has its cost payed, then he can be Mitosised and summon one-time attackers, dealing an extra 5 or 7 damage per turn with just 1 quanta and triggering death effects. On the other hand, Spark can't be combined with Mitosis, except of buffed. Overall, Temporal Zealot/Knight is slightly OP in comparison with Spark IMHO.

It is balanced because Spark/BL is free while this is not.  Triggering death effects is not such a great concern, given that spark + mitosis + buff + anything to take advantage of death effects is technically a quad but plays like a trio and this + mitosis + anything to take advantage of death effects is the same. 

[OldTrees]

I find it OP with fractals, even though it would only be effective for one turn.

How is it different from Fractal Sparks?

The difference is that Spark is 0 quanta for 3|0 / 5|0 while Temporal Zealot is 5|2 / 7|2 for 1 . Though it seems balanced, Temporal Zealot has an extra ability that Spark doesn't have, which allows it to stay alive. Furthermore, Fractal is not the most powerful combo, but Mitosis. If the first Temporal Zealot has its cost payed, then he can be Mitosised and summon one-time attackers, dealing an extra 5 or 7 damage per turn with just 1 quanta and triggering death effects. On the other hand, Spark can't be combined with Mitosis, except of buffed. Overall, Temporal Zealot/Knight is slightly OP in comparison with Spark IMHO.

Either Fractal TZ acts like Fractal Sparks or Fractal Abominations. I do not see how this is a problem.
Either Mitosis TZ acts like Dive or Mitosis Abominations. Again I do not see a problem

[ARTHANASIOS]

It is balanced because Spark/BL is free while this is not.  Triggering death effects is not such a great concern, given that spark + mitosis + buff + anything to take advantage of death effects is technically a quad but plays like a trio and this + mitosis + anything to take advantage of death effects is the same.

 Spark is free because it is a vanilla 3|0 creature that always dies if not buffed, while Temporal Zealot is a 5|2 creature who cost just a signle quanta (+1 ) and also has a passive ability. If passive ability was always negative, it would be balanced, but since it lets you keep the creature by paying a high cost (5 ) it is like we had a 3|0 Spark with an extra backlash ability that lets you drain 3 quanta of yours and keep it alive, despite having 0 health. Vanilla Spark < Spark with backlash, so Spark < Temporal Zealot.
 Triggering death effects is actually something good without being broken at all, since it can help creating some interesting  / / decks.

Either Fractal TZ acts like Fractal Sparks or Fractal Abominations. I do not see how this is a problem.
Either Mitosis TZ acts like Dive or Mitosis Abominations. Again I do not see a problem.

 The problem is that TZ can have Mitosis Sparks, which is impossible with original Spark card. However, the comparison with dive is good, since buffed diving creatures would deal about the same damage with mitosised TZs.
 
I would also like to ask something else. Are you forced to pay TZ's "upkeep" cost if you have the required quanta or you can decide not to do so? The way the text is written seems like you can't, however I ask this just to make it sure.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Bump:

I think the most important point regarding an 'instant' Temporal Zealot is this:



Is being able to target and kill a creature worth 1 more quanta?