Tangle | Snare

[artimies7]

Bump. Changed it. How's it looking? It seems a bit costly, but for all the permanents...never mind.

[furballdn]

It's a spell now. That's good. Personally,  I think 5 or 4  is still a bit OP. Unupped silence costs 3 , and it sort of shuts down your opponent for a turn, while this shuts down you opponent for a turn almost completely. Make it around 6 .

[artimies7]

With Silence, you can't play a Purify to negate Poison.
With Silence, you can't make any changes to your field at all.

With this, your creatures can still attack.
You can still play permanents.
Sundials gain one more counter, even if you can't use its ability. <- big one I didn't think of until now.
And your shields still block damage, even though other effects don't work. [I mean, whether a shield is moving or not, it's still a shield, right?]

[furballdn]

With Silence, you can't play a Purify to negate Poison.
With Silence, you can't make any changes to your field at all.

With this, your creatures can still attack.
You can still play permanents.
Sundials gain one more counter, even if you can't use its ability. <- big one I didn't think of until now.
And your shields still block damage, even though other effects don't work. [I mean, whether a shield is moving or not, it's still a shield, right?]

Hmmmm. I see your point I suppose.

[artimies7]

That's good. Now, should I change anything before I send it off to the Crucible?

[Korugar]

Um, what exactly is the effect with a delayed shield? I know the obvious answer is that the shield has no effect, but I don't think that's right, nor consistent with the game. After all, a delayed and gravity pulled creature still take the damage.

Anyway, the balance looks good. I'd send it on!

[artimies7]

@Korugar: The shield still blocks damage, but it doesn't produce any effects. Example: Firewall still blocks damage, but it doesn't damage your creatures any.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, too. Linking now.

[Pineapple]

Um, what exactly is the effect with a delayed shield? I know the obvious answer is that the shield has no effect, but I don't think that's right, nor consistent with the game. After all, a delayed and gravity pulled creature still take the damage.

Anyway, the balance looks good. I'd send it on!

According to zanz, the shield has no effect, which includes damage reduction being ignored.

[Korugar]

Really? Ok, well, if Zanz says it, that's certainly final word.

[artimies7]

//notatotalbump I entered this in the Life Card Competition.
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