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Re: Stolas | Stolas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41891.msg519837#msg519837
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2012, 12:24:23 am »
I did not say what needed to be in a round
op cards are only in one round?
I don't really understand at all. Care to explain further?

It's not like immorush decks really need anti PC anyway, since they're more focused on rushing and speed.

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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2012, 01:02:16 am »
Fractal ALL the Stolas!
Also, SoP.
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Re: Stolas | Stolas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41891.msg519849#msg519849
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2012, 01:08:03 am »
Fractal ALL the Stolas!
Also, SoP.
I've considered that. Fractalling Stolas requires 4 :rainbow each. That means with QTs, each tower produces 75% of a Stolas. Why would you do that when you could use emerald towers and each emerald tower produces half of a frog? 75% of a Stolas is a 1.5 attacker while half of a frog is a 2.5 attacker. Sure, fractalling it would protect your entire field, but under what circumstances would you dedicate so much quanta and hand space just for full permanent protection? Using SoP still has the flaws of SoP. SoP is slow and a stallbreaker, meaning you'd likely get outrushed if you were using a fractal Stolas SoP deck.

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Re: Stolas | Stolas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41891.msg519860#msg519860
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2012, 02:12:01 am »
the version upgrad,  I'm sure is out of balance,
Our resident aged perennial woody plant has reasoned it is not too unbalanced or anything. I'd like to hear your ideas why it is unbalanced, any deck examples involving this that are OP, and any feedback/suggestions you have to make it not out of balance then.

I generally use immolation to put dragons, now I can put + 2 of these creatures in one turn.
19 damage and more protection. (protection because they use the same long sword,will already protected), now 25 damages
I think you will find Immolation prefers lots of cheap but high attack creatures over Stolas.  Would you play 1 Graboid or 1 Stolas in a Immolation deck? Lycanthrope or Stolas?
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Re: Stolas | Stolas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41891.msg519865#msg519865
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2012, 02:27:17 am »
the version upgrad,  I'm sure is out of balance,
Our resident aged perennial woody plant has reasoned it is not too unbalanced or anything. I'd like to hear your ideas why it is unbalanced, any deck examples involving this that are OP, and any feedback/suggestions you have to make it not out of balance then.

I generally use immolation to put dragons, now I can put + 2 of these creatures in one turn.
19 damage and more protection. (protection because they use the same long sword,will already protected), now 25 damages
I think you will find Immolation prefers lots of cheap but high attack creatures over Stolas.  Would you play 1 Graboid or 1 Stolas in a Immolation deck? Lycanthrope or Stolas?

I am referring to monored
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Re: Stolas | Stolas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41891.msg519866#msg519866
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2012, 02:29:11 am »
the version upgrad,  I'm sure is out of balance,
Our resident aged perennial woody plant has reasoned it is not too unbalanced or anything. I'd like to hear your ideas why it is unbalanced, any deck examples involving this that are OP, and any feedback/suggestions you have to make it not out of balance then.

I generally use immolation to put dragons, now I can put + 2 of these creatures in one turn.
19 damage and more protection. (protection because they use the same long sword,will already protected), now 25 damages
I think you will find Immolation prefers lots of cheap but high attack creatures over Stolas.  Would you play 1 Graboid or 1 Stolas in a Immolation deck? Lycanthrope or Stolas?

I am referring to monored


In that case, why are you bothering with a Stolas, With Immos, you're bound to get those PAs out.

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Re: Stolas | Stolas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41891.msg519869#msg519869
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2012, 02:30:49 am »
Very few people use immos in mono fire. Most mono fire decks would use towers. You mentioned you were using dragons and not golems. So why wouldn't you pack in PA instead of Stolas? Sure, it makes your deck technically a duo, but if all you're going for is protecting your longsword, you're going to need at least 2 Stolas (8 :rainbow + 2 cards) instead of 1 PA (1 :earth + 1 card).

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« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2012, 02:45:07 am »
Very few people use immos in mono fire. Most mono fire decks would use towers. You mentioned you were using dragons and not golems. So why wouldn't you pack in PA instead of Stolas? Sure, it makes your deck technically a duo, but if all you're going for is protecting your longsword, you're going to need at least 2 Stolas (8 :rainbow + 2 cards) instead of 1 PA (1 :earth + 1 card).

immolations in monored can destroys in 4 rounds, is very speed, stolas would give more power to damage and protection to long sword
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Re: Stolas | Stolas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41891.msg519881#msg519881
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2012, 02:47:48 am »
Why would you want to use two stolas as 4 damage and a PA for your sword when you could easily use that quanta for grabboids, frogs, and PA?

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« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2012, 02:55:28 am »
immolations in monored can destroys in 4 rounds, is very speed, stolas would give more power to damage and protection to long sword
Methinks you are forgetting about the eleven other quanta Immo produces that ISN'T :fire .

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« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2012, 02:57:47 am »
Why would you want to use two stolas as 4 damage and a PA for your sword when you could easily use that quanta for grabboids, frogs, and PA?

I am referring to up stolas, graboids are  :earth :earth :earth
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« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2012, 02:59:17 am »
Why would you want to use two stolas as 4 damage and a PA for your sword when you could easily use that quanta for grabboids, frogs, and PA?

I am referring to up stolas, graboids are  :earth :earth :earth
We're talking about Permenent Protection, which Stolas is.  The only other protection right now is Enchant Artifact [2 | 1 :earth ].  With Immolation, it is a much better deal that Stolas.

 

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