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qetuol

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Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69552#msg69552
« on: May 16, 2010, 12:44:28 pm »
    NAME: [/color][/b]
Spontaneous Combustion
ELEMENT:
Fire
    COST:
11 :fire
    TYPE:
Spell
  ATK|HP:
-
ABILITY:
Deals 1 damage for each fire pillar/tower you have to the target. This spell consumes all your fire quanta left.
    NAME: [/color][/b]
Spontaneous Combustion
ELEMENT:
Fire
    COST:
9 :fire
    TYPE:
Spell
  ATK|HP:
-
ABILITY:
Deals 1 damage for each fire pillar/tower you have to the target. This spell consumes all your fire quanta left.
ART:
Tibor Szendrei
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icybraker

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69555#msg69555
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 12:50:22 pm »
I caught the original picture. ;)

Anyways, this is overpowered. Getting 109 fire quanta isn't that hard. All you need is that much quanta and one of these and you pretty much win against any deck without a reflecting shield or a way to increase max HP (about 95% of the decks out there). A stall deck with this card is quite powerful.

How do you make it weaker? I don't really know. I guess make it unable to target players and reduce the cost.

qetuol

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69557#msg69557
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2010, 12:55:16 pm »
maybe HALF the fire quanta you have? or divided by 3?

icybraker

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69566#msg69566
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2010, 01:13:12 pm »
Divided by 3 would make it a more expensive clone of Fire Bolt. Making it half would just make it very similar. You should make something completely different. Example:

Spontaneous Combustion
Costs 9 :fire
Deal 10 damage to the target. The target is dealt 1 burn damage with every attack. Stacks.

So, using it on a player with 100 health brings him down to 90. Let's say you have 3 Ash Eaters on the field. Normally, they would do 2+2+2 damage for 6, bringing him down to 84, but now, they deal (2+1)+(2+1)+(2+1) damage (the 1 being additional burn damage), or 9, dropping him down to 81.

qetuol

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69569#msg69569
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2010, 01:18:56 pm »
this car should be a permanent then... (deals 10 dmg once but the +1 attack is added every turn for each creature..)

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69601#msg69601
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2010, 03:05:31 pm »
basicallly hes icybreaker is saying keep the name but change the card there is no way to weaken it without turning it into a firebolt

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69622#msg69622
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2010, 03:54:55 pm »
I agree with Icy, as the original would be REALLY OP with Fractal Brimstone Eaters.

qetuol

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69759#msg69759
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2010, 07:58:08 pm »
Ok, what about this:

Deals 3 (2?) damage for each fire pillar you possess. Also consumes all fire quanta.

Btw i think argumentation like "similar to Firebolt" is not too valid because there are bunch of similar cards...
e.g. Firabolt and Thunderbolt, dragons, etc..

wizelsnarf

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69765#msg69765
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2010, 08:04:05 pm »
I like tying it to your pillars. That seems like a cool idea which no card currently utilizes.

It isn't very spontaneous if you target a creature... Maybe it could hurt a random creature or something? Dunno.

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69818#msg69818
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2010, 09:40:46 pm »
How about simply "Destroy target creature, it deals damage to you equal to its HPs"?

Or possibly at a high cost it might even damage its owner.

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69935#msg69935
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2010, 03:05:59 am »
I disagree with it being OP.

With 109 fire quanta, 3 fire lances kills a person too. And it's not hard to get 3 of those...

Granted, it is also better creature control than fire lance, but it cost six times as much AND you lose the rest of your fire quanta.

qetuol

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg69997#msg69997
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2010, 06:43:25 am »
Ok, nerfed to half of fire quanta.

Let me know if i you thin is better use fire pillars instead of quanta...

 

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