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qetuol

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg70011#msg70011
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2010, 08:57:31 am »
Ok, i changed damage deduction from quanta to pillars,
disscuss

the fury

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg70017#msg70017
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2010, 10:13:25 am »
now I think is nice:

ex:
10 towers=30 dmg,      consume fire quanta=no more then 1 for turn

Lanidrak

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg70042#msg70042
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2010, 01:11:24 pm »
The name still makes me think of some sort of creature control...

If there was a card to be called Spontaneous Combustion - I'd imagine it to deal 5 damage to target creature and give me 5 :fire, maybe costing 1 Pillar/Tower to play? :)
Sort of like a Cremation on enemy creatures...

Anyways, back to this card idea.

It seems balanced and strictly mono-fire. Which I like. Running this:
18 Fire Towers
4 Crimson Dragons
2 Fire Bucklers
2 Fahrenheit's
3 Explosions
3 Spontaneous Combustions...

Very powerful mono fire deck. With all 18 Pillars in play, and an Explosion in hand (even though some Shields can't be targetted), the 18 pillars would mean 54 damage, which is a very nice end-game situation... provided your opponent doesn't have a reflection shield somewhere. And if he does, your Fahrenheit will be doing a lot of damage all through the game!

I like it.

IStoneI

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg71715#msg71715
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2010, 11:14:33 am »
wait a minute. so it does the same than fire lance, without taking mana into account you already built up, but the cost is 9 instead of 1  and it consumes all your  :fire ? did i miss something?

Scaredgirl

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg71718#msg71718
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2010, 11:20:36 am »
wait a minute. so it does the same than fire lance, without taking mana into account you already built up, but the cost is 9 instead of 1  and it consumes all your  :fire ? did i miss something?
This is about number of Pillars/Towers, not quanta.

I personally think it works too well with Fire Bolt. All a Fire Bolt Deck needs is one of these and you can easily do extra 30-45 damage as a finishing blow.

qetuol

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg71869#msg71869
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2010, 06:00:37 pm »
wait a minute. so it does the same than fire lance, without taking mana into account you already built up, but the cost is 9 instead of 1  and it consumes all your  :fire ? did i miss something?
This is about number of Pillars/Towers, not quanta.

I personally think it works too well with Fire Bolt. All a Fire Bolt Deck needs is one of these and you can easily do extra 30-45 damage as a finishing blow.
of course numbers can be nerfed... this idea is about concept

qetuol

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg139140#msg139140
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2010, 01:33:21 pm »
okay, i changed the idea, also nerfed, and reuploaded the pictures.
i want to ask the moderator to add the pictures to "Crucible" again, thank you.

the Sage

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg139787#msg139787
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2010, 12:45:19 pm »
I like the concept, but what I don't like is that where the unupped is a typical fire card, the upped becomes an OP rainbow card.

qetuol

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg144322#msg144322
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2010, 08:49:53 pm »
I like the concept, but what I don't like is that where the unupped is a typical fire card, the upped becomes an OP rainbow card.
i dont think its OP for rainbow deck, lets see why... first, it costs 10  :fire  , so rainbow deckers have to wait quite long for that 10 :fire . second, it consumes all  :fire, so rainbow decks cannot use so often .. also, they wont have more than 1-2 copies....

the Sage

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg144871#msg144871
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2010, 03:50:39 pm »
I like the concept, but what I don't like is that where the unupped is a typical fire card, the upped becomes an OP rainbow card.
i dont think its OP for rainbow deck, lets see why... first, it costs 10  :fire  , so rainbow deckers have to wait quite long for that 10 :fire . second, it consumes all  :fire, so rainbow decks cannot use so often .. also, they wont have more than 1-2 copies....
I disagree. Thing is: Fire decks have almost no permanents that aren't pillars, meaning that at double the cost the upgraded does little more damage.
Mono-fires will probably be using the unupped, not the upped.

Rainbows spam permanents left and right: steals, empathic bonds, shards, hourglasses: you name it, they got it. And of course the upped version also counts all the quantum pillars, meaning that you don't need fire at all.
Last: ultimate spells cost rainbow decks LESS, not more than monos! Losing all your  :fire is expensive for a mono-fire, but it's meh for a rainbow, who still has 11 other options open (see discussion here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11363.0.html )
Rainbows often stall, which means they can wait until they get their :fire at some point.

You might make the upped do 1.5 * fire pillars, or 1* all non-quantum pillars.

qetuol

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Re: Spontaneous Combustion | Spontaneous Combustion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6613.msg152691#msg152691
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2010, 05:51:15 pm »
Ok, i decided to keep the ability of  the unupped card .. the moderator now can update in the crucible topic the images pls, thx

 

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