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Title: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: russianspy1234 on March 17, 2012, 08:04:05 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/russianspy1234/ros/spikedshield.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/russianspy1234/ros/barbedshield.png)
NAME:
Spiked Shield
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
2 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: Reduce damage by 1.
Increase damage dealt by your weapon by 1.
NAME:
Barbed Shield
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
2 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: Reduce damage by 1.
Increase damage dealt by your weapon by 2.
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1146258 modified (badly) in photoshop by russianspy1234
IDEA:
russianspy1234
NOTES:
you do actually need a weapon for the damage bonus.
SERIES:
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: OdinVanguard on March 17, 2012, 08:10:42 pm
Is the increase static or does it stack with each block... The latter would definitely warrant a higher cost.
Also, will this increase count towards the crusader ability when used? I.e. would using a imbue with dagger + this give +4 to the crusader instead of +2?
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: furballdn on March 17, 2012, 08:14:26 pm
I assume it means that the shield blocks 1 and just increases 1|2 damage for your weapon. I do like the card, can cause some very nice combos, but why is it in :darkness? Also, how does it increase the damage with your weapon? Does it make you more aggressive or something? Thirdly, only 2: darkness for a 1 dr shield and +1|2 weapon damage? I feel it should be more.
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: russianspy1234 on March 17, 2012, 08:14:55 pm
the increase is static, just an additional 1 (or 2) damage per attack.  not sure how it would interact with crusaders ability, depending on how it is coded, i dont think it warrants writing in a special exception either way.

its darkness due to the sneaky nature of attacking with your shield.
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: Rutarete on March 17, 2012, 08:33:11 pm
Cool idea! I'm imagining this in a Dirk Rush or something similar.
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: furballdn on March 17, 2012, 09:02:49 pm
Quote from: russianspy1234 on March 17, 2012, 08:14:55 pm
the increase is static, just an additional 1 (or 2) damage per attack.  not sure how it would interact with crusaders ability, depending on how it is coded, i dont think it warrants writing in a special exception either way.

its darkness due to the sneaky nature of attacking with your shield.
If it's attacking with your shield, then the attack does not add on to the weapon. While the difference looks minute, it's actually quite different. A shield attack and an increase in attack of a weapon means dr shields will take place twice, and extra damage for your weapon (like vampire dagger) is much better than extra damage for your shield.
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: russianspy1234 on March 17, 2012, 09:41:05 pm
Quote from: furballdn on March 17, 2012, 09:02:49 pm
Quote from: russianspy1234 on March 17, 2012, 08:14:55 pm
the increase is static, just an additional 1 (or 2) damage per attack.  not sure how it would interact with crusaders ability, depending on how it is coded, i dont think it warrants writing in a special exception either way.

its darkness due to the sneaky nature of attacking with your shield.
If it's attacking with your shield, then the attack does not add on to the weapon. While the difference looks minute, it's actually quite different. A shield attack and an increase in attack of a weapon means dr shields will take place twice, and extra damage for your weapon (like vampire dagger) is much better than extra damage for your shield.
this is true, but it is also what i was going for.  there is flavor and there is mechanics, and i am indeed going for increasing damage of the weapon with its intended advantages over just bashing with your shield.  maybe call it that, trying to avoid getting poked by the shield makes it easier to hit more precisely with the weapon?
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: OdinVanguard on March 17, 2012, 10:20:00 pm
Just my 2  :electrum but for some reason it just seems to fit better under  :earth . Like sharp stone or metal spikes.
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: mildlyfrightenedboy on March 17, 2012, 10:34:28 pm
I like the synergy with Vampiric Dagger...
The extra damage would heal you for one extra point.  Yay!
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: russianspy1234 on March 17, 2012, 10:36:29 pm
Quote from: OdinVanguard on March 17, 2012, 10:20:00 pm
Just my 2  :electrum but for some reason it just seems to fit better under  :earth . Like sharp stone or metal spikes.
ehhh not really, i mean, a darkness elemental is far more likely to use something this underhanded than an earth one.
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: Vendanna on April 12, 2012, 10:33:02 pm
How this card work alongside multiple weapons? (classic flying weapon decks) would it affect them all with its bonus (like with eclipse?)

Or its simple a shield that also does damage each turn like a weapon? (it could look weird but there is nothing that stops it)
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: russianspy1234 on April 12, 2012, 10:35:41 pm
Quote from: Vendanna on April 12, 2012, 10:33:02 pm
How this card work alongside multiple weapons? (classic flying weapon decks) would it affect them all with its bonus (like with eclipse?)

Or its simple a shield that also does damage each turn like a weapon? (it could look weird but there is nothing that stops it)

i had not thought of flying weapon... ill say it only affects the weapon you are holding.
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: bogtro on April 12, 2012, 10:38:42 pm
Seems rather cheap if you mean that every enemy attack generates 2 more attack for your weapon.
Title: Re: Spiked Shield | Barbed Shield
Post by: russianspy1234 on April 12, 2012, 11:00:39 pm
Quote from: bogtro on April 12, 2012, 10:38:42 pm
Seems rather cheap if you mean that every enemy attack generates 2 more attack for your weapon.

No, its just a flat bonus seperate from the defense
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