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Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg511848#msg511848
« on: June 16, 2012, 06:16:02 pm »
NAME:
Sludge Collector
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
If you get poison counters, autocast this card for free.
:aether :aether : Becomes a 6|6 creature until end of turn.

NAME:
Sludge Collector
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
If you get poison counters, autocast this card for free.
:aether  : Becomes a 6|6 creature until end of turn.


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NOTES:
Again, only one trigger per event.  Poison being used counts as one event, even though its more than one counter.  Chrysoaras will trigger one each as such.
The health is largely irrelevant (other than being more than 1 for fire shield) since it will be a permanent on your opponents turn, however if it hits a thorn carapace, the poison counters will stay on the permanent.
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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg511946#msg511946
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 01:58:52 am »
This is cool. It's like a reverse Seraph, having to pay to make it attack, rather than making it immatariel. Good work :D .
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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg511954#msg511954
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2012, 02:19:50 am »
Gogo Fractal!

After you fractal, you get a hand of permanents, right?

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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg511968#msg511968
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 03:07:45 am »
Gogo Fractal!

After you fractal, you get a hand of permanents, right?

I assume you'd get a load of 6/6 creatures.
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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg512016#msg512016
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 06:57:55 am »
It should give a hand full of permanents,  just like fractaling a flown weapon.
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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg512019#msg512019
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 07:05:21 am »
It depends on what the card looks like when the ability is used.
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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg512118#msg512118
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2012, 03:47:48 pm »
id say permanent, just like flown weapon
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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg512141#msg512141
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 05:03:28 pm »
Originally idea! Trigger per poisen event is interesting. Question: What happens if you already have been poisened and draw that card? Does your poisen stack trigger it, or only if you got additional poison? If you have Neurotoxin and play a card it have to be free too.

Does the "1 turn" mean, that your opponent can distroy it with CC and on your next turn it becomes a permanent? What happens, if it will be the target with Basilisk Blood, Time Shield or something else?
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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg512145#msg512145
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2012, 05:37:35 pm »
lol,
another autocast  :P

why that name?
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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg512147#msg512147
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 05:50:05 pm »
I really like this one. Why have the ability cost aether?

Edit: I answered my own question
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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg512177#msg512177
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2012, 06:58:02 pm »
Originally idea! Trigger per poisen event is interesting. Question: What happens if you already have been poisened and draw that card? Does your poisen stack trigger it, or only if you got additional poison? If you have Neurotoxin and play a card it have to be free too.

Does the "1 turn" mean, that your opponent can distroy it with CC and on your next turn it becomes a permanent? What happens, if it will be the target with Basilisk Blood, Time Shield or something else?

it triggers when you gain poison counters, not when you take poison damage, so if you draw it later, you'd have to wait until you are poisoned again.  neurotoxin... well if the game treats it the same as poison code wise, playing a card (and thus gaining a counter) would trigger this.

basically, assuming you activate the ability each turn, it is a creature on your turn and a permanent on your opponents. a delay shield would stay on it when it changes back to being a permanent (so you wouldnt be able to activate it again).  basalisk blood... well thematically i would say it should stay a creature, however mechanically, it makes more sense that it works just like delay shield (the perm is delayed 6 turns) and when it finally does become a creature again, its HP is high, and the thematics arent good enough to justify a special case, so ill go with the delayed as permanent choice.

lol,
another autocast  :P

why that name?
seemed like a good name.

I really like this one. Why have the ability cost aether?

Edit: I answered my own question
in case someone else is curious, its because aether is the domain of electricity/energy and thats what this thing runs on.
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Re: Sludge Collector | Sludge Collector https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41314.msg525027#msg525027
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 04:19:27 pm »
What if you had a full field of permanents, and cast it to a creature, and played another permie down. What would happen when it tried to revert to a permanent?

 

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