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« on: May 22, 2012, 12:09:44 am »
NAME:
Support Pillar
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
0
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Each turn 1 quantum of a type used this turn is generated.
NAME:
Support Tower
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
0
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Each turn 1 quantum of a type used this turn is generated. Gain 1 extra quantum when played.

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if nothing has been used, a random quantum is generated.
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Re: Support Pillar | Support Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40537.msg502085#msg502085
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 12:15:56 am »
Do you mean to say in the text, "Generate 1 quantum of a type used this turn."?
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Re: Support Pillar | Support Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40537.msg502086#msg502086
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 12:20:05 am »
Do you mean to say in the text, "Generate 1 quantum of a type used this turn."?

yeah just noticed i missed that as i was making the next card.  copy paste fail.
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Re: Support Pillar | Support Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40537.msg502280#msg502280
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 02:53:11 pm »
Dear RussianSpy, why don't you make a series with all those Pillar/Tower ideas of yours?
By the way, this card seems too random to be effective. What I try to tell is that a Quantum Pillar/Tower generates 3 random quanta this turn while this one generates 1 random quanta of the type used this turn. Does this include the quanta used by your opponent as well as your those used by you?
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Re: Support Pillar | Support Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40537.msg502283#msg502283
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 02:59:05 pm »
Dear RussianSpy, why don't you make a series with all those Pillar/Tower ideas of yours?
By the way, this card seems too random to be effective. What I try to tell is that a Quantum Pillar/Tower generates 3 random quanta this turn while this one generates 1 random quanta of the type used this turn. Does this include the quanta used by your opponent as well as your those used by you?

I'm hoping to, don't know if I will be able to come up with 6 (minimum number for a series) good ideas though. While this technically would include the opponent, the only card I can think of that uses quanta during an opponents turn is dissipation shield.   While this card is clearly less effective than Quantum Pillar in a rainbow deck, it is more effective in duo/trio/quartet decks, which is actually what I have been going for with each of these.
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Re: Support Pillar | Support Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40537.msg502314#msg502314
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 04:41:34 pm »
how would this work out in this example?

i have a fallen druid out ( :entropy). i use improve ( :life) on a crawler ( :water) that becomes an armaggio with steal ( :gravity), and i steal an obsidian tower ( :darkness)

do i get one  :life, one :gravity, or one :darkness?

by the way, this could be what some of my decks need for extra quanta generation. cool idea
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Re: Support Pillar | Support Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40537.msg502327#msg502327
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 05:00:59 pm »
how would this work out in this example?

i have a fallen druid out ( :entropy). i use improve ( :life) on a crawler ( :water) that becomes an armaggio with steal ( :gravity), and i steal an obsidian tower ( :darkness)

do i get one  :life, one :gravity, or one :darkness?

by the way, this could be what some of my decks need for extra quanta generation. cool idea

it chooses one of the types of quanta used at random.
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Re: Support Pillar | Support Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40537.msg502330#msg502330
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 05:12:39 pm »
This is an interesting mechanic. I am not sure of its utility but it is certainly worth exploring.

This is random fixation once a source of the quanta has been obtained.
Seems like a buff would be desired but it cannot be in the amount produced or it would act like a double mono pillar.
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Re: Support Pillar | Support Tower https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40537.msg502339#msg502339
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 05:31:11 pm »
This is an interesting mechanic. I am not sure of its utility but it is certainly worth exploring.

This is random fixation once a source of the quanta has been obtained.
Seems like a buff would be desired but it cannot be in the amount produced or it would act like a double mono pillar.

the niche i am shooting for with this card is splitting this with quantum pillars in a quartet deck.  other possible uses to be sure, but that is what i am optimizing towards.  the wording for towers is so long, that it makes it very difficult to add in any other type of balance.
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