Shrouder | The Shrouded

[AnonymousRevival]

But wouldn't it overpower if it can keep on negating the spells effects?

No. The simple fact is that Shrouded will just cause the opponent to delay until they have 2 targeting cards (the first could even be insufficient normally or even a buff). Once they have the two cards they destroy Shrouded without you getting a chance to replace the shroud.

But what about AI? Do they cast two spells in one turn?

[Kamietsu]

But wouldn't it overpower if it can keep on negating the spells effects?

No. The simple fact is that Shrouded will just cause the opponent to delay until they have 2 targeting cards (the first could even be insufficient normally or even a buff). Once they have the two cards they destroy Shrouded without you getting a chance to replace the shroud.

But what about AI? Do they cast two spells in one turn?

If the AI targets it, obviously, only the shrouded effect will go away. But it's still on the field, and the AI targeted it in the first place, so I'd assume they would target it again if they could.

[Drobbit]

There are a lot of ways to deal with this skill. You can also use a non-agressive ability like heal on it to desactivate the skill and then kill it.

[Kamietsu]

There are a lot of ways to deal with this skill. You can also use a non-agressive ability like heal on it to desactivate the skill and then kill it.

Yep! All in all, I think it's balanced because you can't even buff it (aside from nightfall/eclipse) without either wasting a spell/ability, using someone more useless on it first, or hoping the opponent only targets it once.

[Drobbit]

did you read my suggestion about making a cloak that grants this ability? it would be awesome and there you have an alternative to quintesence for the darkness.

[Kamietsu]

did you read my suggestion about making a cloak that grants this ability? it would be awesome and there you have an alternative to quintesence for the darkness.

Mhmm, i saw it. Initially, I had though to make the shrouded ability able to target any creature, but decided against it for whatever reason. But I think another semi-quint-like card isn't really what the game needs. It would just make creatures even harder to kill as it is. Or at least that's my take on it. Maybe I will put up a poll and see how many would like the Shrouded ability as a stand alone buff card.

[OldTrees]

A standalone Shroud card would either
A) Not give the creature the refresh ability
B) Remove previous abilities

Instead of a standalone spell have a creature skill that can shroud other creatures.
That way you can refresh vs Mass CC and it doesn't Lobotomize the creature.

[Kamietsu]

A standalone Shroud card would either
A) Not give the creature the refresh ability
B) Remove previous abilities

Instead of a standalone spell have a creature skill that can shroud other creatures.
That way you can refresh vs Mass CC and it doesn't Lobotomize the creature.

I think you have it confused a little. The Shrouded stand alone spell would be a one time buff. Not giving the creature the ability to continually shroud itself.

But if it did give the creature the ability to continually shroud itself, then yes, it's previous ability would be removed.

[OldTrees]

A standalone Shroud card would either
A) Not give the creature the refresh ability
B) Remove previous abilities

Instead of a standalone spell have a creature skill that can shroud other creatures.
That way you can refresh vs Mass CC and it doesn't Lobotomize the creature.

I think you have it confused a little. The Shrouded stand alone spell would be a one time buff. Not giving the creature the ability to continually shroud itself.

But if it did give the creature the ability to continually shroud itself, then yes, it's previous ability would be removed.

My point is a one time shroud is not very useful and may not even be worth a card slot. However a creature that can shroud other creatures would be worth a card slot.

[Kamietsu]

Alright. I see your point. That does make sense. I'll have an updated card up soon.

[joebob777]

im not sure if this is balanced or not but if shroud is a spell, pretty useless if it targets one, but if it shrouds all creatures on field (including opponent's) that might make a shorud card more useful

[Kamietsu]

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