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Tartarus | Erebus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43610.msg1001625#msg1001625
« on: September 21, 2012, 10:51:00 pm »
NAME:
Tartarus
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Everytime a creature dies, its owner loses one quanta of its element.
NAME:
Erebus
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Everytime a creature dies, your opponent loses one quanta of its element.

ART:
Drake_XIV
IDEA:
Drake_XIV
NOTES:
Shroedinger's Cat does trigger this, as well as Shard of Focus and anything killed by Immolation.

Other creatures will drain 1 :rainbow.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 04:29:34 pm by Drake_XIV »

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Re: Tartarus | Erebus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43610.msg1001629#msg1001629
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2012, 11:00:59 pm »
Now that's a good combination with BW and SoSac.
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Re: Tartarus | Erebus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43610.msg1001630#msg1001630
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2012, 11:01:49 pm »
Erebus is more efficient than condor with aflatoxin. It seems like a possibly OP OTK. You might need to specify that it doesn't stack.

Otherwise, I think they are interesting.

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Re: Tartarus | Erebus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43610.msg1001632#msg1001632
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2012, 11:04:19 pm »
Erebus is more efficient than condor with aflatoxin. It seems like a possibly OP OTK. You might need to specify that it doesn't stack.

Otherwise, I think they are interesting.
Because it's really easy to let Malignant Cells set up.

It isn't.  Trust me.

And yes, it does stack.  Just good luck getting enough up to make it count.

I am considering nerfing Erebus' damage.

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Re: Tartarus | Erebus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43610.msg1001653#msg1001653
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2012, 12:29:43 am »
Erebus is more efficient than condor with aflatoxin. It seems like a possibly OP OTK. You might need to specify that it doesn't stack.

Otherwise, I think they are interesting.
Because it's really easy to let Malignant Cells set up.
I think you are probably right. But it is not very many cards to set up: aflatoxin, lightning storm, this, and it has the potential to kill with unblockable (spell?) damage. Obviously there are lots of counters, and you have to survive, but you could pull this off with just mark and novas.

P.S. It would be nice against AI with nightmare damselflies :)
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Re: Tartarus | Erebus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43610.msg1001657#msg1001657
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2012, 01:01:15 am »
I like Tartarus. I don't like Erebus. Tartarus is a new mechanic. Erebus is pretty much lightning on a stick, and not as original. I'd rather have the upgrade be either a small increase in the quanta lost from Tartarus's ability or a cost decrease from 4 --> 3.
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Re: Tartarus | Erebus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43610.msg1001739#msg1001739
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2012, 06:00:31 am »
Erebus is more efficient than condor with aflatoxin. It seems like a possibly OP OTK. You might need to specify that it doesn't stack.

Otherwise, I think they are interesting.
Because it's really easy to let Malignant Cells set up.

It isn't.  Trust me.

And yes, it does stack.  Just good luck getting enough up to make it count.

I am considering nerfing Erebus' damage.
^Yes... sadly malignant cells just take too long to set up to make vulture - toxin - plague truly powerful... Very fun to see a 23|24 vulture though.
... Adrenaline helps, but that takes an extra element to work... and willingness to pop adrenaline on an enemy creature. Thats pretty risky. You have to have a bit of death wish there, or at least a dangerous streak.

I'm not as experienced as some at PvP, but I do know it can backfire vs AI... and if the AI can cope with it, odds are that players won't have a major issue.

I don't think theres any major risk for abuse atm. If anything that combo would be slightly UP.

The best use I see is as a counter to kitty... unfortunately, the poor cat really doesn't need the nerf IMHO.

Its a fun support card concept though.
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Re: Tartarus | Erebus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43610.msg1003425#msg1003425
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 04:30:01 pm »
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