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Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg478862#msg478862
« on: April 10, 2012, 05:59:31 pm »
NAME:
Shield of Earth
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Give your shield to a creature to protect it.
NAME:
Armor of Earth
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
2 :earth
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Give your shield to a creature to protect it.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
:aether Phase shield Gives immaterial to the creature.
 :air Fog shield gives Evasion (like shard of freedom?), Wings: Passive Airborne and Retreat -> return to hand.
 :darkness Dusk mantle "gives burrow to the creature"
 :death Bonewall -> Gives a bonewall token to this creature, Skull shield -> upon death it turns into a skeleton.
 :earth gives Guard skill to the creature
 :entropy Gets random defensive effect.
 :fire creature gains Phoenix skill
 :gravity It gains the Doll passive skill (so damaging it will be unwise)
 :life Emerald -> Reflect spells back to player, Thorns: Gains infect and its poisonous to ingest.
 :light Hope -> gives +1 HP per light emmiting creature, solar shield -> + 4 HP and bioluminscence; Mirror shield -> Reflect spells back to player.
 :time delay any creature or opponent that target this creature (delayed opponents only affects their weapon)
 :water froze any creature that targets this creature, froze enemy weapon if it targets it.
:other The creature gets +3 HP (+6 HP if upped) so it works like heavy armor but costing you a shield.
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« Last Edit: April 12, 2012, 09:55:26 pm by Vendanna »

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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg478870#msg478870
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 06:12:46 pm »
I think I've seen another card like this somewhere earlier, but I can't remember where. I would definitely like to see something like it make it in the game though. It will make a good partner with crusader.

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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg478871#msg478871
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 06:13:09 pm »
i actually like this application more than the guard in level 2 creatures.  life and light have more than one shield, however.  gravity's is a bit weak, so is life's, especially considering how expensive life shields are.  entropy's is just chaos power.
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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg478872#msg478872
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 06:15:34 pm »
i actually like this application more than the guard in level 2 creatures.  life and light have more than one shield, however.  gravity's is a bit weak, so is life's, especially considering how expensive life shields are.  entropy's is just chaos power.
Air also has 2 (wings)
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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg478877#msg478877
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 06:24:48 pm »
Let's see. what do you think on these suggestions (before updating the text)

 :entropy -> targeted creature gets a random ability
 :life Emerald Shield -> Turn the creature into a dragon of its element. Thorn Shield -> Creature gets  Infect and is poisonous to ingest.
 :light Hope -> +1/+1 per light emitting creatures, Solar shield -> bioluminiscence like the nypmh, Mirror Shield -> mind gate.
 :air wings -> Give airborne and dive.

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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg478879#msg478879
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 06:28:36 pm »
aside from thorn shield, those dont seem very 'protective', same with bonewall, too, now that i think of it.
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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg478883#msg478883
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 06:33:02 pm »
aside from thorn shield, those dont seem very 'protective', same with bonewall, too, now that i think of it.

You can also propose ideas for those slots. Its not forbidden. And yeah I know it but note that its hard to put "protective ideas" that wouldn't require a lot of code to do. (it would be best if all the boni it grants are already inside the code tought since it makes the implementation faster)

Edit: Another possibility for gravity is adding the targeted creature the passive "doll" effect, so hurting it will hurt the opponent too. (which paired with armagios could be rather infuriating tought) but its a protective effect :)
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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg478886#msg478886
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 06:41:14 pm »
if i had ideas id give em, but at the moment i just wanted to highlight the issues to be addressed
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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg479025#msg479025
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2012, 12:09:46 am »
Updated the entries of effects with changes to the "less defensive" shields and added the "Other" shields to the list. Now waiting for suggestions/opinions.

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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg479110#msg479110
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2012, 03:19:46 am »
The name...why not just call it shield transfer or something?

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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg479121#msg479121
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2012, 03:51:41 am »
I find all of the effects to be significantly UP and not at all worth giving up a shield tbh.
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Re: Shield of Earth | Armor of Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38425.msg479278#msg479278
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2012, 04:08:17 pm »
I find all of the effects to be significantly UP and not at all worth giving up a shield tbh.
Not all of them are that UP.
Phase shield and wings aren't too bad to give up when they are about to expire...
same with boneshield.
The grav one is definitely worth it imo. It would make "its a trap" doable as a duo... that could get ugly (put this + grav pull on a titan and watch the enemy weep)
The  :earth one gives gaurd, which could be quite devastating if played correctly (for instance, if a heavy hitter gets AM'ed you now have a powerful healer. Also works well to let a heavy hitter stay occupied in case of SoSac)

Still, I see bogtro's point some of these shields are quite expensive. I'd say the creature should gain a stat bump (hp, and maybe att) as well as the ability. Maybe make the extra hp relative to the cost of the shield.
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