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Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238389#msg238389
« on: January 02, 2011, 02:42:10 am »
NAME:
Shard
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
1
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
It looks like a crystal shard. It seems to be useless, but it might be upgradable.
NAME:
Shard of Advancement
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Change the target creature´s element to match your mark.
ART:
Zanzarino
IDEA:
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NOTES:
don´t know if this hasn´t been thought of yet, couldn´t find anything on it.
note: the element change of the creature is permanent, as an example: that means when the creature is fractalled and when it appears onto your hand, it will still have the new element.
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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238400#msg238400
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2011, 02:57:07 am »
There have been repeated ideas in Light or Darkness to have this effect. However this is sufficiently different.

When would you use this?
Other than
Darkness or Death mark to use nightfall
Darkness or Death mark to use Holy Light
Water to use Flooding
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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238408#msg238408
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2011, 03:19:08 am »
What exactly changes? Just the element of the card, or anything more than that?
If it changed something like the cost, then that would be something to look into; what about if it was Reverse Timed? Would it return to its initial element, or would it keep its newer element? if it was changed into an Air card, does it get 'airborne' passive? etc. etc.
It's missing a few of the finer details IMO, but otherwise it seems like it could be an interesting card.

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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238543#msg238543
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2011, 10:12:21 am »
I wouldn't think that people really use this card much. Maybe I might be generalizing this but, shards are supposed to be rare. And by rare, they are usually good and effective. I'm not saying that this card is useless, but people won't really yearn to get it and people won't use it much.
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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238548#msg238548
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2011, 10:19:46 am »
There have been repeated ideas in Light or Darkness to have this effect. However this is sufficiently different.

When would you use this?
Other than
Darkness or Death mark to use nightfall
Darkness or Death mark to use Holy Light
Water to use Flooding
u forgot air for sky blitz, and another note which i just thought of, this card would most probably go really well with fractal since fractal consists of copying the exact card onto your hand (besides mutated creatures) maybe as suggestion,  the element of the card would probably remain the same in your hand if your fractal it?
but i see your point, my "counter argument" would be "Shard of Readiness", since about 60% or less of the creatures in the game have abilities to reduce their costs to zero, but nevertheless out of those many abilities, there would only be a select few on which people would generally use SoR for, such as druid´s "mutation|improve" ability, so a card only useful for some creatures, which makes me think that this card would have a similar "total usage" as Sor at least until card pool becomes bigger.
What exactly changes? Just the element of the card, or anything more than that?
If it changed something like the cost, then that would be something to look into; what about if it was Reverse Timed? Would it return to its initial element, or would it keep its newer element? if it was changed into an Air card, does it get 'airborne' passive? etc. etc.
It's missing a few of the finer details IMO, but otherwise it seems like it could be an interesting card.
i slightly agree with you on that, although to answer your question, only the element of the card changes and it stays that way, and the only useful thing that changing the cost of the creature does would have to be linked with "fractal" in the case of changing both its cost and element as you suggested. airborne passive wasn´t considered but perhaps by changing into air such an effect may occur.

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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238550#msg238550
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2011, 10:21:44 am »
I wouldn't think that people really use this card much. Maybe I might be generalizing this but, shards are supposed to be rare. And by rare, they are usually good and effective. I'm not saying that this card is useless, but people won't really yearn to get it and people won't use it much.
but i see your point, my "counter argument" would be "Shard of Readiness", since about 60% or less of the creatures in the game have abilities to reduce their costs to zero, but nevertheless out of those many abilities, there would only be a select few on which people would generally use SoR for, such as druid´s "mutation|improve" ability, so a card only useful for some creatures, which makes me think that this card would have a similar "total usage" as Sor at least until card pool becomes bigger.

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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238701#msg238701
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2011, 03:41:52 pm »
Something to note:
Air Blitz affects all Airborne creatures not Air creatures. If a creature is changed to Air that does not entail that it gains Airborne.

I like the permanent element change idea (change remains when fractal'ed). This would allow changing the element of the creature to a easily acquired quanta like  :death :light :fire.
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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238704#msg238704
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2011, 03:46:40 pm »
Have a ridiculous amount of fire quanta while you're only drawing aether cards, no creatures, and your opponent is beating you down with a massive dragon? Turn it to fire and fractal that sucker! Show your opponent what fer.

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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238709#msg238709
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2011, 03:56:21 pm »
Something to note:
Air Blitz affects all Airborne creatures not Air creatures. If a creature is changed to Air that does not entail that it gains Airborne.

I like the permanent element change idea (change remains when fractal'ed). This would allow changing the element of the creature to a easily acquired quanta like  :death :light :fire.
oh i see, cause someone else mentioned that turning it into a creature would give it airborne ability unless that was a seperate suggestion, not sure. i´ll add the fractal idea to the notes

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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238713#msg238713
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2011, 03:58:23 pm »
Have a ridiculous amount of fire quanta while you're only drawing aether cards, no creatures, and your opponent is beating you down with a massive dragon? Turn it to fire and fractal that sucker! Show your opponent what fer.

...Yah. ^_^ (I support that motion.)
very agreeable  :)

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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238715#msg238715
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2011, 04:00:29 pm »
You know you can put multiple quotes in one post, right?

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Re: Shard | Shard of Advancement https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18706.msg238749#msg238749
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2011, 04:35:50 pm »
This card would be useful in dead draw situations where you have too much of one quanta and too little of another.  I like it.  Can this target creatures in your hand?

 

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