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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg238004#msg238004
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2011, 05:46:39 pm »
My intuition tells me that it is too cheap but my intuition is not very reliable.
really? i get the feeling from your posts on the forums that i've seen that you've been playing elements or at least been active in the forums for at least twce as long as i have. so i think your intuition should be more trusted than not. or is biased-ness a factor?
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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg238007#msg238007
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2011, 05:50:53 pm »
My intuition tells me that it is too cheap but my intuition is not very reliable.
really? i get the feeling from your posts on the forums that i've seen that you've been playing elements or at least been active in the forums for at least twce as long as i have. so i think your intuition should be more trusted than not. or is biased-ness a factor?
Most of the time you will see me relying on theory to support my reasoning. I do this because my gut intuition is less reliable than that of most people.
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Whenever I refer to my intuition you can treat it as a very low certainty statement compared to my normally high certainty statements.
well, nevertheless, everything goes into consideration
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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg238260#msg238260
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2011, 10:54:21 pm »
Oh yes, I forgot this was being used in a rainbow deck.. Perhaps if this was simply given an element? Life, maybe. It does associate with Scorpions, and it seems that Permanents and Spells in the "Other" category that aren't shards don't get put into the game very often. This would probably have a better chance of getting voted for if it wasn't in the Other category. Just IMO.

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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg238300#msg238300
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2011, 12:09:37 am »
Oh yes, I forgot this was being used in a rainbow deck.. Perhaps if this was simply given an element? Life, maybe. It does associate with Scorpions, and it seems that Permanents and Spells in the "Other" category that aren't shards don't get put into the game very often. This would probably have a better chance of getting voted for if it wasn't in the Other category. Just IMO.

Also, (lol) I meant to change the actual "Art by EmeraldTiger" inside the card itself. Also, make sure the card text matches the table text word for word and punctuation for punctuation. Made that mistake before. Doesn't seem like a big deal, but the Curators don't like it for some reason. (Fix the periods at the end of your tables)
well, it could be used in (most likely) a rainbow deck, but also a trio a duo.
as for things in the "Other" category, the cards besides shards and the quantum pillar are technically "obsolete", so this card still does have a good chance of being used, because there's nothing else like it.
and, well, i think that making it life instead of "other" makes it harder to use in a rainbow deck (though i admit i've only used a rainbow once or twice before)
oopsy about the art by thing  ;D
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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg238351#msg238351
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2011, 01:15:51 am »
Looks ready to be submitted into the Crucible, IMO.

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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg239322#msg239322
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2011, 05:21:22 am »
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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg252582#msg252582
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2011, 03:22:27 pm »
One problem I can think of is that it would allow all scorpions to come in with at least 1 attack.
I think it should only come into effect if there are 2 or more types. Otherwise it isn't an alliance.




As the card currently stands, you could have a mono-time deck and have dune scorpions with 1 attack.  The whole point of making the attacks for dune and deathstalker's 0 is that even though their poison is powerful, you need some sort of synergy in order to make the poison hit.


I think that if you have 2 types of scorpions it should give +2|+2. If you have all 3, it should be +3|+3 momentum adrenaline.
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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg252732#msg252732
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2011, 08:03:30 pm »
Or maybe the same as dunecross says, but with +1/1 and +2/2 mom adren.

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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg252956#msg252956
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2011, 01:26:01 am »
Yes, that would actually be better. Good call.
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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg252997#msg252997
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2011, 02:09:44 am »
One problem I can think of is that it would allow all scorpions to come in with at least 1 attack.
I think it should only come into effect if there are 2 or more types. Otherwise it isn't an alliance.
... You make a good point there.


As the card currently stands, you could have a mono-time deck and have dune scorpions with 1 attack.  The whole point of making the attacks for dune and deathstalker's 0 is that even though their poison is powerful, you need some sort of synergy in order to make the poison hit.
And another good point

I think that if you have 2 types of scorpions it should give +2|+2. If you have all 3, it should be +3|+3 momentum adrenaline. 2 types of scorpions it should give +2|+2- that sounds good. the mom. adr. part however, is way too OP. also, doesn't adr. and mom. replace the other? i don't think you can have both at the same time 
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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg253017#msg253017
« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2011, 02:26:20 am »
You can have both. Also, the fact that you would need to get 3 different scorps out, (3 different elements), and also pay for this permanent, really doesn't make that OP at all.


But I do agree that for both 2 scorps and 3, the attack should be 1 less than my original suggestion.
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Re: Scorpion Alliance | Scorpion Alliance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18582.msg253035#msg253035
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2011, 02:35:51 am »
But I do agree that for both 2 scorps and 3, the attack should be 1 less than my original suggestion.
you mean what yoyobro posted?
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