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Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg473935#msg473935
« on: March 24, 2012, 11:37:21 pm »
NAME:
Scion
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
3 :time
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 2
TEXT:
:life : Progeny (Sacrifice Card)
Generate a Scion with +N | +N, where N is the generation of the card.
NAME:
Descendant
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
3 :time
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 5
TEXT:
:life : Progeny (Sacrifice Card)
Generate a Descendant with +N | +N, where N is the generation of the card.

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When a Scion | Descendant is played., it is considered to be the 0th Generation, so it does not get a boost.  The buffs from progeneration are applied to the base stats, so a 2nd Generation Scion would have 3 | 4.

Thematically, the ability comes from how :life and :time are intertwined.  As time passes, life continues to strive and grow.  In this case, with each generation that dies, they leave behind someone to take their place due to active procreation.

If a Scion or Descendant is affected by Parallel/Twin Universe, it takes on the same generation, so their progeny will continue the chain.

So, let's go with this, since it was requested.  Remember, Scion/Descendant enters as Generation 0 when played from hand:
Time Effect UsedGenerationBoosts Due to EffectBase Stats [Unupgraded]Base Stats [Upgraded]
00+0/+01/21/5
11+1/+12/32/6
22+2/+23/43/7
33+3/+34/54/8
44+4/+45/65/9
55+5/+56/76/10
Also, I guess it'd be easier to tell the Generation by putting a token on it similar to Poison [or Neurotoxin, considering :time ].  Of course, it would be in a different spot.

Also, Shard of Readiness.  Such a tricky thing.  I've decided to make SoR cause Scion | Descendant have TWINS.
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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg473947#msg473947
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 12:03:38 am »
I don't think I've heard progeny as a word before. Hmm.
Anyway, Life/Time cards aren't common. Good job finding a link here.
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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg474302#msg474302
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 09:06:53 pm »
The more I think about it the more I like it.  :time :life-theme fits perfectly.
The only thing: I'd let the child pop up on another location. Reason: Parent 'gives birth' to a child and dies afterwards. No 2 creatures can occupy the same field, also not for a short time in the same turn.

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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg474309#msg474309
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 09:17:45 pm »
Would you please put up a table of generation and stats? I'm sort of lazy to find it out myself, but I love the idea.

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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg474315#msg474315
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 09:32:10 pm »
Added.  How about some reciprocation?  Got any ideas for art?

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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg474316#msg474316
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 09:33:46 pm »
My only worries for this card is what will happen when mixed with SoR. A single SoR allows it to jump down two generations, but even then, it looks alright. As for image, for some reason, I think of something like a sphere or something.

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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg474317#msg474317
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 09:36:29 pm »
Got any ideas for art?
What about an old king/pharao on his throne with his offspring in the front?

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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg474318#msg474318
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 09:42:25 pm »
My only worries for this card is what will happen when mixed with SoR. A single SoR allows it to jump down two generations, but even then, it looks alright. As for image, for some reason, I think of something like a sphere or something.
I was thinking maybe it'd produce two Scions instead of skipping to generations.  In either case, it lose the SoR effect.
Got any ideas for art?
What about an old king/pharaoh on his throne with his offspring in the front?
My problem with that is that Pharaoh is already being used.  Maybe something less... Egyptian?

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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg474320#msg474320
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 09:56:47 pm »
Isn't this simply  :life +1|+1 (per turn)?
The only difference is it generates death effects, which may or may not be a bad thing.

Also it's hardly worth a 5 :time cost.

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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg474350#msg474350
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 11:34:10 pm »
What if I dropped it to 3/3 costs?

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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg474435#msg474435
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 05:10:43 am »
I don't think I've heard progeny as a word before. Hmm.
Anyway, Life/Time cards aren't common. Good job finding a link here.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/progeny

Not a highly used word, but it comes up every now and then.

 I like the mechanic, but I think it should get a slightly higher boost per generation, in order to keep up with the "growth" and "ablaze" abilities.
Should be quite fun. This would make the card a nice soft counter to poison and antimatter based decks.
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Re: Scion | Descendant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37731.msg474446#msg474446
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 05:48:12 am »
I don't think I've heard progeny as a word before. Hmm.
Anyway, Life/Time cards aren't common. Good job finding a link here.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/progeny

Not a highly used word, but it comes up every now and then.

 I like the mechanic, but I think it should get a slightly higher boost per generation, in order to keep up with the "growth" and "ablaze" abilities.
Should be quite fun. This would make the card a nice soft counter to poison and antimatter based decks.
Thanks for the link.
I don't think it should get a bigger boost per generation. 1. Because this card is already balanced as is. It has its own ability niche and doesn't need to be a copy of growth/ablaze. Actually, this is inbetween those two.
2. It's more thematic to grow slowly with time.
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