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Sandbag | Heavy Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035036#msg1035036
« on: January 24, 2013, 03:14:17 pm »
NAME:
Sandbag
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
5 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: Absorb 20 damage.
:time : Pour
Sandbag turns into a Golden Hourglass.

NAME:
Heavy Sandbag
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
4 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: Absorb 25 damage.
:time : Pour
Elite Sandbag turns into an Electrum Hourglass.


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Today, you will need to be on your guard.

If you feel weighed down, don't be afraid to let some of your burden go.

I haven't seen a shield yet that takes a set amount of damage, like an Armagio does, so this would be the idea.

If Flooding is played, your side is unaffected.

This card will not disappear when it runs out of damage to absorb.
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« Last Edit: March 03, 2013, 07:14:09 pm by whatifidogetcaught? »
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Re: Sandbag | Elite Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035039#msg1035039
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 03:29:34 pm »
The only annoying thing I see about this card is that it is essentially a trio.  :earth to play  :fire to activate and  :time to use the hourglass effect.

Normally I would say thats bad, because I think cards should be thought of in element with an off color mark first and formost, but hourglasses are predominate in rainbow decks so I suppose it couldnt hurt. I just dont think this card would see much use.

6 quanta and 2 turns to play an hourglass, and 5 of that quanta may be wasted by the permanent being destroyed.

Personally, I think it would be better as a high HP creature like 0|15 or something like that, so that it would have more uses. Right now all it does is allow for more than 6 hourglasses in a deck (which I dont see why more than 6 would even be needed). If it was a creature though, it could be used as a catapult fodder (this is used in a rainbow anyways), or a buffing target when you need it, and an hourglass when you dont.
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Re: Sandbag | Elite Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035053#msg1035053
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 04:06:01 pm »
Do you see a thematic way around that?
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Re: Sandbag | Elite Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035061#msg1035061
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 04:47:33 pm »
Not really. I think changing it to a creature would be best, so that it would have more uses. I just cant see this card ever being used in its current state. Perhaps make it a sand creature, instead of sandbag (generic sand golem as an example, my creativity juices are weak). Then it could be used offensivly, or as a utility. That would require a complete rework of the card itself, but stil allow the ability to stay in tact.

You cant use pressure on sand to make glass can you? If so the activation cost could be earth as well, then it would give more synergy with  :earth and  :time If you did this then you could even keep it a permanent and a sandbag (but not sure if it works thematically)
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Re: Sandbag | Elite Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035069#msg1035069
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 05:19:38 pm »
... I just thought about how I could use a Home Run Bat on this thing.

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Re: Sandbag | Elite Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035074#msg1035074
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 05:39:29 pm »
If you compact sand hard enough, it becomes sandstone =p, not glass.

If I were to make it a creature, my thought would be something that throws sand...affecting the accuracy of another creature's attack maybe?

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Re: Sandbag | Elite Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035082#msg1035082
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 05:56:47 pm »
... I just thought about how I could use a Home Run Bat on this thing.
Me too :))

This reminded me of my old Dented Shield. It's similar kind of, but not the same card. And now...

YAY! For :earth :time :fire trio! I think the game could use more trio supporting cards like this one. I like it as a permanent, because as it's about to die you can still make use of it. However, BP does make a point. Perhaps if it turns into something else (still time element though) like a... Sand dial? :P I I might make that now though...
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Re: Sandbag | Elite Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035090#msg1035090
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 06:10:55 pm »
I feel like an idiot we are putting too much thought into this. Sure sand make glass when you heat it up.

 HOurglasses have sand in the naturally though. You could just give it the ability construct and turning the sand into glass won't even be relevant. Or you can make the ability time themed.
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Re: Sandbag | Elite Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035109#msg1035109
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 07:07:42 pm »
I feel like an idiot we are putting too much thought into this. Sure sand make glass when you heat it up.

 HOurglasses have sand in the naturally though. You could just give it the ability construct and turning the sand into glass won't even be relevant. Or you can make the ability time themed.

Oh lol. The ability could just be "pour". I will get on that.
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Re: Sandbag | Heavy Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035115#msg1035115
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2013, 07:24:08 pm »
Changes have been made. Now it is definitely a duo card.

What do you guys think of the damage amount that must be overcome? Too much for the cost? Too little?
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Re: Sandbag | Heavy Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035125#msg1035125
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2013, 07:38:22 pm »
No more trio :(

This supports Graboid Rush a little too much for my liking I think. The hp amount seems fine though.

And I'm getting the feeling that Z did a card with the hp shield as well.
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Re: Sandbag | Elite Sandbag https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46231.msg1035126#msg1035126
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2013, 07:38:38 pm »
... I just thought about how I could use a Home Run Bat on this thing.
Pulverizer ftw! lol

I kinda like it... though I think the absorb amount could be a little higher.

Does it automatically get removed after absorbing the damage, or does it stick around?
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