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Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg504349#msg504349
« on: May 26, 2012, 08:44:46 pm »
NAME:
Templar
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 3
TEXT:
Order :  When played, change the costs of all the cards in both players' hands to that of their mark for one turn.
NAME:
Templar
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
3 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 3
TEXT:
Order :  When played, change the costs of all the cards in both players' hands to that of their mark for one turn.

ART:
Drake_XIV
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
A Light card that alters the player's hand. Useful in your own deck for flexibility and also very irritating to rainbows and most shard decks if played repeatedly.

"Drain all remaining" cards will drain quantum of your mark instead.
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NAME:
Templar
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 3
TEXT:
Order: Change the costs of all the cards in both players' hands to that of their mark for one turn.
NAME:
Templar
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
3 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 3
TEXT:
Order: Change the costs of all the cards in both players' hands to that of their mark for one turn.

ART:
Drake_XIV
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
A Light card that alters the player's hand. Useful in your own deck for flexibility and also very irritating to rainbows and most shard decks if played repeatedly.

"Drain all remaining" cards will drain quantum of your mark instead.
SERIES:
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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg504353#msg504353
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2012, 09:25:33 pm »
Is order an active ability that needs to be activated? Can it be used more than once? Is it used only when templar hits the field?

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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg504359#msg504359
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2012, 09:35:26 pm »
I think it is too strong against rainbows and too weak against mono. The worst thing about it is that even if your rainbow packs CC, you probably won't have the quanta to cast it.

Then there is the potential for abuse. Certain kinds of quanta, like  :life, are very easy to get lots of and less easy to spend. With this card, now you can use  :life for everything including Fractal and Skyblitz

For example: Mark of  :life, Play templar and leaf dragon, convert enough  :light into  :life to cast Fractal, then convert the rest of your  :light into  :life so you can play your whole hand of frogs or whatever.

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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg504629#msg504629
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2012, 02:20:40 pm »
Is order an active ability that needs to be activated? Can it be used more than once? Is it used only when templar hits the field?
It only happens once when Templar is played from the hand. Mitosis'd Templars won't trigger Order.
I think it is too strong against rainbows and too weak against mono. The worst thing about it is that even if your rainbow packs CC, you probably won't have the quanta to cast it.
Compare Silence, which prevents any enemy card from being played for 1 turn regardless of rainbow or mono. Templar is 1 quanta more expensive, though it does give you the opportunity to quantum fix your own hand.
Then there is the potential for abuse. Certain kinds of quanta, like  :life, are very easy to get lots of and less easy to spend. With this card, now you can use  :life for everything including Fractal and Skyblitz

For example: Mark of  :life, Play templar and leaf dragon, convert enough  :light into  :life to cast Fractal, then convert the rest of your  :light into  :life so you can play your whole hand of frogs or whatever.
This card's alteration effect only lasts for one turn, which means that you will have all the cards in your hand at the same time or chain Templar several times to make a combo. At that point, you are using several cards together (Templar,Frogs,Rustler,Fractal) that would likely comprise an entire deck (most likely an OTK deck with the combo you listed, and said OTK deck can't really get around shields unless you splash in Explosion, which puts a lot of quantum stress on Templar).

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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg504657#msg504657
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2012, 03:52:07 pm »
I'm guessing "drain all remaining" cards will drain quanta of your mark?

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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg504659#msg504659
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2012, 03:55:33 pm »
I'm guessing "drain all remaining" cards will drain quanta of your mark?
Yes.

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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg504881#msg504881
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2012, 03:33:48 am »
The way the card is written, it looks like it is an active ability that you can use every turn for free. I don't know how to word it as a one-time thing. Does any other card work that way?

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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg504886#msg504886
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2012, 04:10:08 am »
The way the card is written, it looks like it is an active ability that you can use every turn for free. I don't know how to word it as a one-time thing. Does any other card work that way?
I agree. Add something like "during the turn this is played" or something. Right now the wording is quite ambiguous.

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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg505533#msg505533
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 08:10:49 pm »
The way the card is written, it looks like it is an active ability that you can use every turn for free. I don't know how to word it as a one-time thing. Does any other card work that way?
I agree. Add something like "during the turn this is played" or something. Right now the wording is quite ambiguous.
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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg505573#msg505573
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 10:51:25 pm »
Hey, let's eternity bounce it!
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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg505575#msg505575
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 10:57:42 pm »
Hey, let's eternity bounce it!
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Re: Templar | Templar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40730.msg505579#msg505579
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 11:03:46 pm »
Hey, let's eternity bounce it!
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Situational shouldn't be used as a criticism here. Rewinding it like so would be a specific strategy - and strategies in and of themselves are situational.
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