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Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg453820#msg453820
« on: January 28, 2012, 09:48:54 am »
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 4
TEXT:
Red Herring becomes your only targetable creature.
NAME:
Red Herring
ELEMENT:
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COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 6
TEXT:
Red Herring becomes your only targetable creature.
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A Red Herring is a plot device used to divert attention from the real problem or matter at hand. This is demonstrated by this creature drawing attention away from your other creatures, the ones which actually pose a threat.

If you have multiple Red Herrings, any of them can be targeted. The ability of Red Herring does not take effect if it is immaterial; if you have a single, Quinted Red Herring, any of them will be able to be targeted. 'Herring' is a passive ability.

This is an alternate means of creature protection besides Quintessence and Cloak.
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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg453822#msg453822
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 09:53:42 am »
After "Herring," I was wondering when someone would do this.

Anyways, it's a great concept.  I take it your own spells can't target any creatures on your side aside from "Red Herring?"

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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg453824#msg453824
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 10:01:27 am »
Anyways, it's a great concept.  I take it your own spells can't target any creatures on your side aside from "Red Herring?"
You are correct ... although, I wonder if it would be better as "Red Herring becomes the only one of your creatures that your opponent can target."

Hmm ... thoughts?
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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg453830#msg453830
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 10:22:28 am »
Does Rain of Fire/Pandemonium affect other creatures? What will happen for pandemonium?
Quinted creatures are not targetable and are not effected from field-wide effects.
If I remembered correctly, the mechanism of field-wide spells are like hitting creature no. 1-->creature no.2-->creature no.3-->...-->creature no.23
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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg453831#msg453831
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 10:30:17 am »
Yes, non-targeted spells will affect your other creatures.

Its ability is passive and therefore cannot be lobotomized.
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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg453879#msg453879
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 12:40:43 pm »
I've seen people try to do this before, but this is by far the most simple and elegant version. Well done.
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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg453898#msg453898
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 01:50:51 pm »
Are you sure it's balanced?

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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg454014#msg454014
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 06:59:35 pm »
Are you sure it's balanced?
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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg454027#msg454027
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 07:36:58 pm »
Have you searched to see if the effect has been done before?
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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg454029#msg454029
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 07:54:27 pm »
Health should be 2 at most. Super cheap mass pseudo-quint, getting it off the field should be easy.

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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg454182#msg454182
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2012, 02:09:06 am »
Health should be 2 at most. Super cheap mass pseudo-quint, getting it off the field should be easy.
Quint permanently makes the target creature untargetable.
This forces all effects to direct onto itself, thus giving temporary invulnerability to other creatures. After all of these are wiped off the board, it's targetability as usual.
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Re: Red Herring | Red Herring https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36086.msg454200#msg454200
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2012, 03:12:19 am »
What happens if I have two on  the field and my opponent casts a spell?

 

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