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Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1023160#msg1023160
« on: December 18, 2012, 06:25:47 am »
NAME:
Rebound
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
2 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: Randomly redirects permanent damage to somewhere on the field.
NAME:
Rebound
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: Redirects permanent damage to the opponent's field.  Damage from creatures is reduced by 1.

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And presenting, the second of a series long in planning by me and Z, Rebound!

First, to clarify Permanent damage. This is the third type of damage currently in Elements the Game, and there is about the same amount of these cards as there are ones for Spell damage. These include the existing ingame weapons, catapult, and a previous popular card, Giant.  To prevent this card from being too situational, it also gains a 1 DR upon upgrade similar to it's spell counterpart, Mirror Shield. Just as spell damage can be reflected, so can permanent damage.

When a card changes 'damage type', the last damage altering effect on it determines the resulting damage. This will be important when considering other cards this series will present, like Ground Weapon - coming soon. (For example, Shard of Wisdom on an Animate Weapon makes the damage spell damage.)
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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1023252#msg1023252
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2012, 09:28:04 pm »
An interesting idea, but now there is way too few permanents for this to be worth it. But it seems you have some other permanent damage card planned, so together they might very well work good.
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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1023256#msg1023256
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2012, 09:57:41 pm »
An interesting idea, but now there is way too few permanents for this to be worth it. But it seems you have some other permanent damage card planned, so together they might very well work good.
Keep in mind how few spells there are that are reflected for Mirror Shield as well.
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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1023259#msg1023259
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2012, 10:06:30 pm »
But isn't there only Catapult? Maybe Unstable Gas too?

Spell damage have: Fire bolt, Ice bolt, Drain Life, psion, SoW and maybe some more.

Not much, true, but Permanent only has 1 or 2 cards (I think).
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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1023260#msg1023260
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 10:06:51 pm »
How about making the unupped go randomly on the field and the upped randomly on opponent field, like pandemonium?
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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1023264#msg1023264
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2012, 10:27:07 pm »
How about making the unupped go randomly on the field and the upped randomly on opponent field, like pandemonium?
... That's what it does already.

@Fippe Re-read the notes. Weapons are included.
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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1023272#msg1023272
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2012, 11:18:40 pm »
I like this idea quite much.

I feel like this could get used way more than Gravity Shield =p
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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1023295#msg1023295
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 01:21:56 am »
I like the idea, but fully negating weapon damage seems a bit too powerful... decks like Poison dials Sosac have their effectiveness reduced dramatically.
Also, will this potentially allow you to bypass spell damage shields if you cast Catapult on yourself with this shield up?

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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1023297#msg1023297
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 01:31:20 am »
I like the idea, but fully negating weapon damage seems a bit too powerful... decks like Poison dials Sosac have their effectiveness reduced dramatically.
Also, will this potentially allow you to bypass spell damage shields if you cast Catapult on yourself with this shield up?
It cripples decks bout the same amount as spell reflecting shields.
And yes, you can use this in the same way as spells + reflective shield.
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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1037073#msg1037073
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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1037145#msg1037145
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2013, 07:34:27 am »
I read this as instead of reflecting damaging permanents like weapons and UG, it instead reflected the damage your permanents recieved, so if you used deflag on one of my permanents, then it would randomly deflag something else.

Since weapons are permanents, would flying weapons damage still be reflected, or would they be considered creatures at that point?
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Re: Rebound | Rebound https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45185.msg1037159#msg1037159
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2013, 08:08:09 am »
Actually, UG is spell, not permanent damage, so...

Anyways, I didn't consider Weapons, as a majority of them do say 'physical' damage, making one think they attacked normally and are still blocked by shields that 'pult bypasses...

 

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