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Re: Rebirth | Ressurection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg235351#msg235351
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 06:04:49 am »

Here's the PNG version of both cards, along with some new card art by yours truly.
You'll need to change the name of the upgraded card in your table, though.

   

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Re: Rebirth | Ressurection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg235359#msg235359
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 06:15:16 am »
Here's the PNG version of both cards, along with some new card art by yours truly.
You'll need to change the name of the upgraded card in your table, though.

   
thats pretty awesome art. i will go edit the table and add in the new stuff.
EDIT, the upped version costs 2 instead of 1
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Re: Rebirth | Resurrection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg235369#msg235369
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2010, 06:37:25 am »
Upgraded version of the card with 2 cost:


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Re: Rebirth | Resurrection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg235371#msg235371
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2010, 06:41:29 am »
Upgraded version of the card with 2 cost:

thanks!
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Re: Rebirth | Resurrection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg239057#msg239057
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2011, 10:29:43 pm »
Half the original attack, 1 HP, and no abilities...

I am struggling to think of a purpose for this card.

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Re: Rebirth | Resurrection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg239124#msg239124
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2011, 11:57:10 pm »
Half the original attack, 1 HP, and no abilities...

I am struggling to think of a purpose for this card.
Creature swell. Immolation. Mutation/Improve. Half the original attack of most dragons is still 5, and dragons don't even have abilities. Also, with lower attacks, Adrenaline/Epinephrine works more effectively.

IMO, it's a decent trade for a couple :light, rather than a creature simply dying.

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Re: Rebirth | Resurrection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg244138#msg244138
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2011, 09:21:10 pm »
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Re: Rebirth | Resurrection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg244170#msg244170
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2011, 10:17:32 pm »
This could be a very interesting card and a good one for light. First of all is that I like the card art even thought the ankhs are Egyptian and have nothing to do with re-birthing things. So maybe put in some headstones or something a little more relevant. But that doesn't really have to do with the actual card so let me get to that.

 I think that right now the card has an OK concept but I don't think it'll appeal to many. I think that the ability is a little weak and that you may need to have it be something a little different, perhaps, "When target creature comes back to life, it comes back as x | 0 where x is it's normal attack." Then it gets an amazing affect and it's OP. But if this were to happen, you may have to raise the cost of the card by :light or :light :light.

But This card will be great in decks like immo rush. Using Immo on a dragon to get another dragon out and still get the attack of the first dragon could be a great combo. The only problem I have it or a phoenix, when it dies, does it come back as a 3/4 | 1 phoenix or does it become ash or a 0 | 1 ash? That's the only confusion I have.

This card has my vote throughout the different levels, nice card over all, numbers.

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Re: Rebirth | Resurrection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg244372#msg244372
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2011, 03:49:44 am »
This could be a very interesting card and a good one for light. First of all is that I like the card art even thought the ankhs are Egyptian and have nothing to do with re-birthing things. So maybe put in some headstones or something a little more relevant. But that doesn't really have to do with the actual card so let me get to that.

 I think that right now the card has an OK concept but I don't think it'll appeal to many. I think that the ability is a little weak and that you may need to have it be something a little different, perhaps, "When target creature comes back to life, it comes back as x | 0 where x is it's normal attack." Then it gets an amazing affect and it's OP. But if this were to happen, you may have to raise the cost of the card by :light or :light :light.

But This card will be great in decks like immo rush. Using Immo on a dragon to get another dragon out and still get the attack of the first dragon could be a great combo. The only problem I have it or a phoenix, when it dies, does it come back as a 3/4 | 1 phoenix or does it become ash or a 0 | 1 ash? That's the only confusion I have.

This card has my vote throughout the different levels, nice card over all, numbers.
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Re: Rebirth | Resurrection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg244649#msg244649
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2011, 08:04:13 pm »
This is an interesting card idea.  I definitely agree with the effects of the card when it comes back to life, for cards should be weaker when they come back.  Cost wise, I believe that they are priced accordingly.  One thing you could do to make resurrection a little different and better is to make the target card come back as X+1/1 or X/2.  If you were to do that, I would say that the cost for resurrection should be upped one  :light quanta to 3.   This could work in some sort of Immo deck, with maybe dragons or golems being targeted to bring in more   dragons and golems, while have the original targeted creature being brought back to life.  Other than using that in an immo deck, I do not see much elsewhere that it could be used.  It could possibly be used as a combination with bone wall or graveyard.  I could see a nightfall/ graveyard deck with this.  I have a few questions concerning results when the card comes back.   All abilities also means passive ones like airborne?  What if someone cast this spell on phoenix and it died?  What happens when this gets cast on a darkness or death creature when nightfall in is play?  Good job with the card, and congrats for coming in second with it in the competition.
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Re: Rebirth | Resurrection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg247178#msg247178
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2011, 07:12:55 am »
I think he means abilities that appear under the card, ones vulnerable to lobotomize.  Devourer, Poisonous, etc. would be restored.

What about making this a permanent?  I realize it's already in the Crucible and being voted upon, but as a spell it's kind of lackluster.  It's an extra card in your deck to save a creature, when you could just pack more creatures and play them without relying on your opponent to kill your creatures first.  If it's a indefinite-duration, infinite-charge permanent, then it acts as a failsafe for your creatures.  Couple that with Angels and you have a very stable creature setup.  Since it's not bringing things back at full attack every time, the opponent can still whittle you down... just be careful you don't play this against an Otyugh.

Here's how this would work as a permanent with a Golden Dragon:
10|10 Dragon is played, killed
5|1 Dragon returns to life, killed again
2|1 Mini-Dragon returns to die again
1|1 Cool-Looking Photon says "yay, here I go, watch me!"

They couldn't stack like Boneyards, of course.  But even Pegasus/Blessing decks would get good mileage out of this if it was a permanent.  I've always thought one of Light's themes was stable creatures (I mean, Archangel?), and this would add to that greatly.

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Re: Rebirth | Resurrection https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18425.msg248047#msg248047
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2011, 09:39:01 am »
I think he means abilities that appear under the card, ones vulnerable to lobotomize.  Devourer, Poisonous, etc. would be restored.

What about making this a permanent?  I realize it's already in the Crucible and being voted upon, but as a spell it's kind of lackluster.  It's an extra card in your deck to save a creature, when you could just pack more creatures and play them without relying on your opponent to kill your creatures first.  If it's a indefinite-duration, infinite-charge permanent, then it acts as a failsafe for your creatures.  Couple that with Angels and you have a very stable creature setup.  Since it's not bringing things back at full attack every time, the opponent can still whittle you down... just be careful you don't play this against an Otyugh.

Here's how this would work as a permanent with a Golden Dragon:
10|10 Dragon is played, killed
5|1 Dragon returns to life, killed again
2|1 Mini-Dragon returns to die again
1|1 Cool-Looking Photon says "yay, here I go, watch me!"

They couldn't stack like Boneyards, of course.  But even Pegasus/Blessing decks would get good mileage out of this if it was a permanent.  I've always thought one of Light's themes was stable creatures (I mean, Archangel?), and this would add to that greatly.
Sounds like a great idea to me. The name of the cards could also be changed in this process to be of more direct relevance to the Ankh, instead of the broad idea of Resurrection.

 

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