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Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg110003#msg110003
« on: July 07, 2010, 10:25:47 pm »
An almost abandoned idea, started here http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,4975.msg57212#msg57212 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,4975.msg57212#msg57212)
Please give feedback, i'll do my best to improve it  ;)

Quicksilver

NAME: Quicksilver
ELEMENT: Entropy
COST: :entropy
TYPE: Creature
ATK|HP: 1|1
ABILITY: Reflect: Direct damage is reflected against your opponent.
Quicksilver isn’t affected by
gravity pull.
NAME: Quicksilver
ELEMENT: Entropy
COST: :entropy
TYPE: Creature
ATK|HP: 2|1
ABILITY: Reflect: Direct damage is reflected against your opponent.
Quicksilver isn’t affected by
gravity pull.
ART: (Modified) 3d render by deviantArtist Meizawotmeiz http://meizawotmeiz.deviantart.com/art/quicksilver-9912182 (http://meizawotmeiz.deviantart.com/art/quicksilver-9912182)
Working on an own copyright-free image.
IDEA: asymmetry
NOTES: Reflect has nothing to do with immortality.
Quicksilver CAN be targeted, and die like any creature. Just not from direct damage.

Affected by:
 :entropy Maxwell's paradox
 :entropy Fallen elf | Fallen druid's mutation
 :entropy Mutation | Improved mutation
 :entropy Antimatter
 :entropy Butterfly effect
 :death Plague | Improved plague
 :death Virus | Retrovirus
 :death Aflatoxin
 :gravity Momentum | Unstoppable
 :gravity Otyugh's devour
 :earth  Plate armor | Heavy armor
 :earth Basilisk blood
 :life  Adrenaline | Epinephrine
 :life Thorn carapace's poison
 :fire Rage potion | Elixir
 :fire Immolation | Cremation
 :water Freeze | Congeal
 :water Toadfish's inflate
 :water Mind flayer | Ultharid's psyonic wave
 :water Flooding | inundation
 :light Holy Light
 :light Guardian angel | Archangel's heal
 :light Blessing
 :light Luciferin | Luciferase
 :air Shockwave if frozen
 :time Reverse time | rewind
 :time Eternitie's rewind
 :time Scarab's devour
 :time Procrastination | Turtle shield's delay
 :aether Quintessence
 :aether Parallel universe | Twin universe
 :aether Lobotomizer | Electrocutor's lobotomize
 :aether Fractal
 :darkness  Drain life | Siphon life ??? (not pretty sure about this one, is it usually reflected?
 :darkness Parasite | Bloodsucker's infection
 :darkness Liquid shadow

Reflects:
 :fire Firebolt | Firelance
 :fire Rain of fire | Firestorm
 :fire Fire wall | Fire buckler
 :water Icebolt | Ice lance
 :air Thunderstorm
 :air Unstable gas field damage (who triggered it is not relevant)
 :air Owl's eye | Eagle's eye sniper
 :air Shockwave
 :aether Lightning | Thunderbolt
Am I missing something?

Ignores:
 :gravity Gravity pull
 :light Reflective shield | Mirror shield*
 :life Emerald shield | Jade shield*

*As it already happens in the game, damage can't be reflected more than once...
which would be paradoxical and may result in an infinite damage-bouncing loop. (Oh noes!)

SERIES: -

So, tell me my friend, what can you see? What comes into your mind as you breathe?
'cause I see colors flourishing like you'd never believe... like a pendulum swings, they swing with me!

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Re: Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg110028#msg110028
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 11:13:24 pm »
Wait so uhh, wut :P

What is it exactly not affected by  :-\

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Re: Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg110031#msg110031
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2010, 11:21:35 pm »
um... I don't get it. :-\

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Re: Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg110037#msg110037
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2010, 11:33:38 pm »
it reflects all those things he put in notes  and is unaffected by gravity pull

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Re: Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg110038#msg110038
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2010, 11:33:48 pm »
OP. Unkillable without a shield = No.

I dont like it. This and quintessence is OP..


This + 2 upped blessings and a rage pot = +16|+4 On a 2|1 creature = 18|5 unkillable and reflects onto your opponent.

Even without blessing, fractal it for a field of 2|1 unstobbable damage (With quints)..

Or just playing this card ALONE = OP.

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Re: Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg110049#msg110049
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2010, 11:54:34 pm »
Wait so uhh, wut :P

What is it exactly not affected by  :-\
um... I don't get it. :-\
I tried to be as specific as possible :c
Let's see.. it's not the coolest ability, but i can't make it too powerful, since it's cheap.

Some hypothetical situations
1) You have some random creatures and four of these. Opponent casts a RoF, Quicksilvers reflect 3 damage each.
2) Opponent casts a fire shield. You cast quicksilver and adrenaline over it. It reflects -5
3) Octane! you make a deck to beat this particular false god. You have 10 quicksilvers via fractal. Each UG detonation would reflect 10 field damage. EE can't touch them.

OP. Unkillable without a shield = No.

I dont like it. This and quintessence is OP..


This + 2 upped blessings and a rage pot = +16|+4 On a 2|1 creature = 18|5 unkillable and reflects onto your opponent.

Even without blessing, fractal it for a field of 2|1 unstobbable damage (With quints)..

Or just playing this card ALONE = OP.
Why not? there are already immortal creatures and no one complains, and ANY shield other than the fire one makes quicksilvers pretty useless.
but...even if I carefully listed 14 ways it can die, including spells and abilities... you're partly right... reflect can't be a passive ability. Qs+BE+quint is a game over.

How about making it active? so it can be loboed and BE/liquid shadow "overwrites" it?

Any other ideas?
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Re: Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg116133#msg116133
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2010, 04:27:47 pm »
Devouring quicksilver --> poisoned.

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Re: Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg129989#msg129989
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2010, 12:18:44 am »
I know this discussion was a month ago, but voting just came up.

OP. Unkillable without a shield = No.
I dont like it. This and quintessence is OP..
This + 2 upped blessings and a rage pot = +16|+4 On a 2|1 creature = 18|5 unkillable and reflects onto your opponent.
Even without blessing, fractal it for a field of 2|1 unstobbable damage (With quints)..
Or just playing this card ALONE = OP.
I don't understand--You think Quintessence, the Aether card, is OP, or this card played with a quint on it is OP?


you're partly right... reflect can't be a passive ability. Qs+BE+quint is a game over.

How about making it active? so it can be loboed and BE/liquid shadow "overwrites" it?

Any other ideas?
Why can't it be passive?  BE+Quint is already a combo in game (see Dream Catcher).
Wouldn't Quint actually be a counter to this card, since the only thing that would be reflected at that point is Fire Shield?


Devouring quicksilver --> poisoned.
Nice idea.

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Re: Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg134322#msg134322
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 12:37:30 pm »
How is this with quintessence OP?
If it's immortal, nothing can target it, and if nothing can target it, it can't reflect anything.
In any case, I don't think this card makes sense because most of the things it reflects the opponent can simply choose not to target it with.
Does this make the opponent have to target quicksilver with direct damage spells?
If you know it's gonna reflect your spell back on you, you just don't cast the spell on it.

So reflecting firebolt, icebolt, shockwave, lightning, sniper, all useless.

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Re: Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg135355#msg135355
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2010, 08:49:02 pm »
2 people with quicksilvers = endurance race to see who quits first.

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Re: Quicksilver | Quicksilver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9329.msg170505#msg170505
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 02:43:24 pm »
Thanks to all the people who helped with their ideas.
I think Voodoo Doll does te job right now, It'd be cool to have a vanilla reflecting creature, but now it's not that unique anymore.

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