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Re: Quantum Chrono-Stream | Quantum Chrono-Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48953.msg1081793#msg1081793
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2013, 01:04:28 pm »
... oh god. That might actaully be too good :P

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Re: Quantum Chrono-Stream | Quantum Chrono-Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48953.msg1082645#msg1082645
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2013, 09:33:19 pm »
... oh god. That might actaully be too good :P
Well, it would come in over several turns, along with the rest of the quanta from the nova / immolate...

E.g. if you had 2 of these in play and a time mark:
turn 1) Play nova -> each pool gets 1 added to its stream
turn 2) 6 of the 12 quanta get added to their respective pools along with 6*.4 = 2.4 -> 3 :time quanta.
turn 3) 3 of the remaining 6 get added to their pools along with 3*.4 = 1.2 -> 2 :time quanta
turn 4) 2 of the remaining 3 get added to their pools along with 2*.4 = .8 -> 1 :time quanta
turn 5) the last quanta gets added along with 1 * .4 = .4 -> 1 :time quanta.
So nova can now be used as a mark quanta generator but is less reliable for generating its other quanta sources (which trickle in over time).

While this does provide a good deal of extra quanta (+7 extra for 19 total vs 12),  comes in much more slowly (takes 5 turns instead of instantly).

Most games don't last more than about 8 to 10 turns on average, so you would end up waiting half the game before you see the full return.

Does that seem balanced or is it still too good?
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Re: Quantum Chrono-Stream | Quantum Chrono-Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48953.msg1082756#msg1082756
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2013, 01:40:19 am »
Wait, now I'm confused. Can you put the effect into noob terms?

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Re: Quantum Chrono-Stream | Quantum Chrono-Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48953.msg1082956#msg1082956
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2013, 09:29:16 pm »
Wait, now I'm confused. Can you put the effect into noob terms?
Basically, it delays how soon you get quanta from non-pillar/pendulum sources, but in exchange, you get additional quanta of your marks type.
Plus, the quanta trickles in at the start of your turn, providing some soft protection from quanta control (like devourers and black hole).

On average, for every stream in play, you get roughly 20% more quanta in the form of mark type quanta.
How long you have to wait and how much you get depends on how much quanta was produced.

Each turn you get half of whatever quanta is currently waiting in the stream, and 20% more (round up) is added on top of that as mark quanta for each stream in play.

For a nova, it took about 5 turns for all the quanta produced to stream in... it will probably be about 6 or 7 for an immolate.
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Re: Quantum Chrono-Stream | Quantum Chrono-Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48953.msg1083059#msg1083059
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2013, 01:35:14 pm »
Okay... so in the long term it gives me more quanta, but I can't see an actual use.

Show me a deck based around it.

 

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