Pyro Trickster | Pyro Demon

[Jyiber]

NAME: Pyro Trickster ELEMENT: Fire COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2 | 3 TEXT: Volatile: Pyro Trickster loses 1hp per turn. On death both players  burned for 5 spell damage.	NAME: Pyro Demon ELEMENT: Fire COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 3 | 2 TEXT: Volatile: Pyro Demon loses 1hp per turn. On death both players  burned for 5 spell damage.

ART: Awesome that I found such an epic piece of art on a free wallpaper site: http://allgamewallpapers.com/download-free-wallpapers-art-c-44651.html IDEA: Jyiber NOTES: Interesting possible synergies if you give it some thought. Been thinking about this idea for a long time. I don't know if anyone's tried one like this before, but it seems like a simple enough idea to be common. Interesting synergies include but are not limited to: -death mechanics -mirror shields -fractal -Unstable Gas -Speed rushes (like SoB fueled ones) -Healing stall rushes -SoSa -Cremation decks SERIES:

Higher Damage, but not Spell

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NAME: Pyro Trickster ELEMENT: Fire COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2 | 3 TEXT: Volatile: Pyro Trickster loses 1hp per turn. On death both players take 10 damage.	NAME: Pyro Demon ELEMENT: Fire COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 3 | 2 TEXT: Volatile: Pyro Demon loses 1hp per turn. On death both players take 10 damage.

ART: Awesome that I found such an epic piece of art on a free wallpaper site: http://allgamewallpapers.com/download-free-wallpapers-art-c-44651.html IDEA: Jyiber NOTES: This version isn't spell damage, but higher. Changes synergies more for rushes. SERIES:

Original

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NAME: Pyro Trickster ELEMENT: Fire COST: 2 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0 | 3 TEXT: Volatile: Pyro Trickster loses 1hp per turn. On death both players take 5 damage.	NAME: Pyro Demon ELEMENT: Fire COST: 2 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2 | 2 TEXT: Volatile: Pyro Demon loses 1hp per turn. On death both players take 5 damage.

ART: Awesome that I found such an epic piece of art on a free wallpaper site: http://allgamewallpapers.com/download-free-wallpapers-art-c-44651.html IDEA: Jyiber NOTES: At this point, the volatile skill damage will most likely be spell (note mirror shield will reflect your damage and double the total on opponent) Interesting possible synergies if you give it some thought. Been thinking about this idea for a long time. I don't know if anyone's tried one like this before, but it seems like a simple enough idea to be common. Interesting synergies include but are not limited to: -death mechanics -mirror shields -fractal -Unstable Gas -Speed rushes (like SoB fueled ones) -Healing stall rushes -SoSa -Cremation decks SERIES:

[skyironsword]

You don't really have a reason to use this card... An ash eater seems more powerful than this thing, and costs less.

[Jyiber]

You don't really have a reason to use this card... An ash eater seems more powerful than this thing, and costs less.

I think you're missing the applications... 

[skyironsword]

... such as?

[Jyiber]

Oh....

This and Fractal...

This in a light duo with Blessing. Does 3x6 damage + 5 on death

This and in a air duo alongside Unstable Gas (brutal)

It's moving the speed of a Duel up by hurting both players and creates incentive to avoid targeting with killing CC, especially later on in the duel. It's funny that I thought the first comment would accuse it of being OP.    rofl 

[skyironsword]

This and fractal nukes both players... so it's not a very good target. Fractaling ash eaters would do about the same damage, and actually a bit faster considering you don't have to wait.

With blessing, it's 3x6 damage, yes. But it's 3xinfinity for any other non-suicidal creature.

Alongside unstable gas... Any other creature would work better.

Your card is a weaker spark.

Your logic is just... not that good. Sorry.

[Chapuz]

Make it just damage the opponent, for 5 damage unupped and 8 upped. That way it can be a variation for Spark and BL with more damage but a pair of turns of delay. Also reduce its cost to 1|0. Just my 2 cents

[Jyiber]

This and fractal nukes both players... so it's not a very good target. Fractaling ash eaters would do about the same damage, and actually a bit faster considering you don't have to wait.

Mutual destruction is the core of why the idea is so awesome. But when you put it like that... yeah it's slower than I'd like. Maybe less health.

With blessing, it's 3x6 damage, yes. But it's 3xinfinity for any other non-suicidal creature.

I forgot to mention the self destruct damage is unblockable (or maybe spell damage).

Alongside unstable gas... Any other creature would work better.

The purpose of the creature is to die. How is anything non-death mechanic better than that? Actually, now that I think of it, death/fire synergies too.

Make it just damage the opponent, for 5 damage unupped and 8 upped. That way it can be a variation for Spark and BL with more damage but a pair of turns of delay. Also reduce its cost to 1|0. Just my 2 cents

Your card is a weaker spark.

Can't agree that spark is nearly as cool or versatile. Plus, a spark alternative is in a completely different direction of what I'm thinking.

Your logic is just... not that good. Sorry.

That hurts  I prefer the term "logic impaired"   

But in all seriousness, I don't think the point came clearly across. The stats setup was clearly a work-in-progress and I knew it probably would need reworked a little. Thank you for your first glance opinions, but I assure you that terrible, evil, OP things would happen if this were put into some of the rush and stall ideas floating around my head even it's current (in your opinion) "weak state".

[Joseph7]

Is the damage spell damage? If so, this could really work well in a PyroTrickster/Mirror Shield combo deck. If not, I would tend to say that because it deals both players the same amount of damage, it's less useful than it could be. If the damage is not treated as spell damage, I would suggest making the damage taken by the opponent slightly more than the damage to the owner, like 10 damage vs. 5 damage for owner, or something similar.

[Higurashi]

Unupped one could use 2 attack to be worth it, imo. Upped one is fine. 9 damage for 5 is great (compare with easily CC'd Graboid into Shrieker) in a Cremation rush, and it has cool combos with Reflectives and SoSa as well as stalls that heal. In fact, increasing the damage and cost would make it even more interesting (10 damage on death makes it relevant with SoSa and a healing stall).

[Jyiber]

I just can't decide which direction to go, increase damage or make it spell, because I can't do both. A Mirror Shield is simple enough to throw up to make one of these do 20 damage. I think that's OP, so I'm going to throw up both revised versions. Later I'll do a poll to see which is preferred.

[timetock]

weeee immo immo mirror fractual

GAME OVER