*Author

Offline moomoose

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2737
  • Reputation Power: 37
  • moomoose is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.moomoose is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.moomoose is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.moomoose is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.moomoose is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.moomoose is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.moomoose is a Gargoyle, dangerous and everlasting.
  • I'm big in Japan.
  • Awards: Winner of the Mark Redesign competition!
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528525#msg528525
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2012, 02:06:24 pm »
i agree it would be nice for aether to have an aoe spell, but im not sure sacrifice is an appropriate path to wind down for aether, i would encourage you to think up other potential novel alternative mechanics to incorporate. 
moose dont say moo.

Offline OldTrees

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 10297
  • Reputation Power: 114
  • OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • I was available for questions.
  • Awards: Brawl #2 Winner - Team FireTeam Card Design Winner
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528528#msg528528
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2012, 02:20:42 pm »
How about this:

Sacrifice one of your aether creatures. The  :aether quanta required to summon it will equal to the number of damages all your enemy creatures will intake +2.

I know it is too long for card text. But better?
Something to that effect would work.
"It is common sense to listen to the wisdom of the wise. The wise are marked by their readiness to listen to the wisdom of the fool."
"Nothing exists that cannot be countered." -OldTrees on indirect counters
Ask the Idea Guru: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32272.0.htm

Offline odideph

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
  • Reputation Power: 3
  • odideph is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Personal Text This Is
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528593#msg528593
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2012, 06:46:35 pm »
My only concern is that 5 damage is a hell of a lot. Against :fire for example, if you use 2 of these the same turn, the only things that could survive are both conditional: Lava golem that grew for at least 5 turns, or a Seraph with immaterial activated. Against :life, everything dies. Against unupped :entropy, just 1 is enough to kill all creatures (not including high HP mutants). And you could do that 6 times?

Yes it costs alot, but it could easily be used in a mono-aether.

Offline eaglgenes101

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1964
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 29
  • eaglgenes101 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.eaglgenes101 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.eaglgenes101 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.eaglgenes101 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.eaglgenes101 is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
  • The rising all-'rounder of Elements
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday Cake
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528746#msg528746
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2012, 05:35:01 am »
What about just:
Sacrifice one of your creatures. Deal damage equal to the ATK of the sacrificed creature to each enemy creature.
My 3 game-modification principles:
1. If it ain't broke, don't wreck it.
2. Simple fixes for simple problems.
3. Remember to fill in the holes.

Offline ARTHANASIOS

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3766
  • Country: gr
  • Reputation Power: 53
  • ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • Cockatrices ftw!
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeCard Design Competition - Doomsday Device(TM)Weekly Tournament WinnerBrawl #2 Winner - Team FireSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeElemental Warrior Competition Winner
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528759#msg528759
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2012, 06:12:29 am »
What about just:
Sacrifice one of your creatures. Deal damage equal to the ATK of the sacrificed creature to each enemy creature.

Go go go Ruby Dragon & Psi 15 mass CC damage decks!!! :P
Brawl #1 team :time, Brawl #2 team :fire, Brawl #3 team Silver Ferns, Brawl #4,7,8 Brawlmaster
War #8 team :life, War #10,11,12 team :light, Brawl #6 team FROGS :life

Offline furballdn

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7573
  • Reputation Power: 86
  • furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.furballdn is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Facetious trollnotmod
  • Awards: Epic 3 Card Winner - Clockwork GolemBest Recruiter of FriendsBest JournalistBest Chat PainterBattle - Slayer of The Great ChimeraBest Crafted Relic of Other
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528761#msg528761
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2012, 06:23:51 am »
What about just:
Sacrifice one of your creatures. Deal damage equal to the ATK of the sacrificed creature to each enemy creature.

Go go go Ruby Dragon & Psi 15 mass CC damage decks!!! :P
12 :aether + 12 :fire + 1 turn +2 cards + sacrificing a dragon for a few RoFs? Only the first few RoFs really matter.

Offline ARTHANASIOS

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3766
  • Country: gr
  • Reputation Power: 53
  • ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • Cockatrices ftw!
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeCard Design Competition - Doomsday Device(TM)Weekly Tournament WinnerBrawl #2 Winner - Team FireSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeElemental Warrior Competition Winner
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528765#msg528765
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2012, 06:46:32 am »
What about just:
Sacrifice one of your creatures. Deal damage equal to the ATK of the sacrificed creature to each enemy creature.

Go go go Ruby Dragon & Psi 15 mass CC damage decks!!! :P
12 :aether + 12 :fire + 1 turn +2 cards + sacrificing a dragon for a few RoFs? Only the first few RoFs really matter.

I said this makes 15 damage mass CC possible, it will wipe out every enemy creature at once, except Massive Dragons, Armagios|Elite Armagios, Voodoo Dolls and Flying Titans. Now, seeing an army of upgraded Steam Machines or unupgraded Colossal Dragons (creatures with 15 hp) to be killed all instantly, I don't think it is the most balanced thing. Even an upped Spark would produce a 5 damage mass CC spell...
Brawl #1 team :time, Brawl #2 team :fire, Brawl #3 team Silver Ferns, Brawl #4,7,8 Brawlmaster
War #8 team :life, War #10,11,12 team :light, Brawl #6 team FROGS :life

Offline AnonymousRevivalTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2173
  • Country: hk
  • Reputation Power: 25
  • AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
  • Aethemera, aether et lux
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday Cake
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528784#msg528784
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2012, 08:10:03 am »
i agree it would be nice for aether to have an aoe spell, but im not sure sacrifice is an appropriate path to wind down for aether, i would encourage you to think up other potential novel alternative mechanics to incorporate.
Then what sort of mechanism do you suggest? (Because I also thought of removing the immateriality of the creatures, but that too, seems not aether-like)

Alright, so do you guys want me to make this more expensive or something?
Ignotum venit retro vivere. :aether :light

Offline ARTHANASIOS

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3766
  • Country: gr
  • Reputation Power: 53
  • ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • Cockatrices ftw!
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeCard Design Competition - Doomsday Device(TM)Weekly Tournament WinnerBrawl #2 Winner - Team FireSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeElemental Warrior Competition Winner
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528798#msg528798
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2012, 08:43:16 am »
^ It is alrady expensive enough. I don't think the problem is its price, I think we have to decide which kind of mass CC damage is normal and which is broken. Is mass-CC damage of 4 normal? Is mass-CC damage of 5 normal? Is mass-CC damage of 6 normal? etc.
 Personally, I think mass-CC damage of 4 is normal, but not above this. I may accept mass-CC damage of 5 but only within reason and limitations. I wouldn't accept mass-CC of 6 or more even if the card costed 75 :aether and 99 life points at the same time (just an exaggerated example to show my disapproval).
Brawl #1 team :time, Brawl #2 team :fire, Brawl #3 team Silver Ferns, Brawl #4,7,8 Brawlmaster
War #8 team :life, War #10,11,12 team :light, Brawl #6 team FROGS :life

Offline AnonymousRevivalTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2173
  • Country: hk
  • Reputation Power: 25
  • AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
  • Aethemera, aether et lux
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday Cake
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528800#msg528800
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2012, 08:47:06 am »

Sacrifice one of your aether creatures. The  :aether quanta required to summon it will equal to the number of damages all your enemy creatures will intake +2.

This is what I'm currently suggesting. However, I haven't posted this instead of the previous one is because I don't think everyone quite agrees with this one yet.
Ignotum venit retro vivere. :aether :light

Offline ARTHANASIOS

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3766
  • Country: gr
  • Reputation Power: 53
  • ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.ARTHANASIOS brings all the vitality and activity of a Life Nymph.
  • Cockatrices ftw!
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeCard Design Competition - Doomsday Device(TM)Weekly Tournament WinnerBrawl #2 Winner - Team FireSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeElemental Warrior Competition Winner
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528803#msg528803
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2012, 08:54:31 am »

Sacrifice one of your aether creatures. The  :aether quanta required to summon it will equal to the number of damages all your enemy creatures will intake +2.

This is what I'm currently suggesting. However, I haven't posted this instead of the previous one is because I don't think everyone quite agrees with this one yet.

Dear AnonymousRevival, I don't think it is possible for everyone to agree with a certain mechanic. Because of this, I suggest you to either put a poll with all the suggestions and change the card according to poll's results OR make Psi|Psi as you like it to be and not as me, Moomoose, Furballdn, Oldtrees, Eaglgenes101, Odidepth or anyone else wants it to be.
Brawl #1 team :time, Brawl #2 team :fire, Brawl #3 team Silver Ferns, Brawl #4,7,8 Brawlmaster
War #8 team :life, War #10,11,12 team :light, Brawl #6 team FROGS :life

Offline Annele

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2071
  • Country: nz
  • Reputation Power: 34
  • Annele is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Annele is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Annele is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Annele is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Annele is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Annele is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • i should really update my profile
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 12th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 11th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeC-C-C Combomaker 3# WinnerSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday Cake
Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528806#msg528806
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2012, 09:06:35 am »

Sacrifice one of your aether creatures. The  :aether quanta required to summon it will equal to the number of damages all your enemy creatures will intake +2.

This is what I'm currently suggesting. However, I haven't posted this instead of the previous one is because I don't think everyone quite agrees with this one yet.

One simple psion would do 6 damage to each opponent creature.


Also, could you fill out the table completely? And an image would be easier on the eyes.
Beware the Darkness.

 

blarg: