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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528525#msg528525
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2012, 02:06:24 pm »
i agree it would be nice for aether to have an aoe spell, but im not sure sacrifice is an appropriate path to wind down for aether, i would encourage you to think up other potential novel alternative mechanics to incorporate. 
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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528528#msg528528
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2012, 02:20:42 pm »
How about this:

Sacrifice one of your aether creatures. The  :aether quanta required to summon it will equal to the number of damages all your enemy creatures will intake +2.

I know it is too long for card text. But better?
Something to that effect would work.
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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528593#msg528593
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2012, 06:46:35 pm »
My only concern is that 5 damage is a hell of a lot. Against :fire for example, if you use 2 of these the same turn, the only things that could survive are both conditional: Lava golem that grew for at least 5 turns, or a Seraph with immaterial activated. Against :life, everything dies. Against unupped :entropy, just 1 is enough to kill all creatures (not including high HP mutants). And you could do that 6 times?

Yes it costs alot, but it could easily be used in a mono-aether.

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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528746#msg528746
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2012, 05:35:01 am »
What about just:
Sacrifice one of your creatures. Deal damage equal to the ATK of the sacrificed creature to each enemy creature.
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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528759#msg528759
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2012, 06:12:29 am »
What about just:
Sacrifice one of your creatures. Deal damage equal to the ATK of the sacrificed creature to each enemy creature.

Go go go Ruby Dragon & Psi 15 mass CC damage decks!!! :P
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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528761#msg528761
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2012, 06:23:51 am »
What about just:
Sacrifice one of your creatures. Deal damage equal to the ATK of the sacrificed creature to each enemy creature.

Go go go Ruby Dragon & Psi 15 mass CC damage decks!!! :P
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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528765#msg528765
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2012, 06:46:32 am »
What about just:
Sacrifice one of your creatures. Deal damage equal to the ATK of the sacrificed creature to each enemy creature.

Go go go Ruby Dragon & Psi 15 mass CC damage decks!!! :P
12 :aether + 12 :fire + 1 turn +2 cards + sacrificing a dragon for a few RoFs? Only the first few RoFs really matter.

I said this makes 15 damage mass CC possible, it will wipe out every enemy creature at once, except Massive Dragons, Armagios|Elite Armagios, Voodoo Dolls and Flying Titans. Now, seeing an army of upgraded Steam Machines or unupgraded Colossal Dragons (creatures with 15 hp) to be killed all instantly, I don't think it is the most balanced thing. Even an upped Spark would produce a 5 damage mass CC spell...
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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528784#msg528784
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2012, 08:10:03 am »
i agree it would be nice for aether to have an aoe spell, but im not sure sacrifice is an appropriate path to wind down for aether, i would encourage you to think up other potential novel alternative mechanics to incorporate.
Then what sort of mechanism do you suggest? (Because I also thought of removing the immateriality of the creatures, but that too, seems not aether-like)

Alright, so do you guys want me to make this more expensive or something?
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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528798#msg528798
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2012, 08:43:16 am »
^ It is alrady expensive enough. I don't think the problem is its price, I think we have to decide which kind of mass CC damage is normal and which is broken. Is mass-CC damage of 4 normal? Is mass-CC damage of 5 normal? Is mass-CC damage of 6 normal? etc.
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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528800#msg528800
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2012, 08:47:06 am »

Sacrifice one of your aether creatures. The  :aether quanta required to summon it will equal to the number of damages all your enemy creatures will intake +2.

This is what I'm currently suggesting. However, I haven't posted this instead of the previous one is because I don't think everyone quite agrees with this one yet.
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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528803#msg528803
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2012, 08:54:31 am »

Sacrifice one of your aether creatures. The  :aether quanta required to summon it will equal to the number of damages all your enemy creatures will intake +2.

This is what I'm currently suggesting. However, I haven't posted this instead of the previous one is because I don't think everyone quite agrees with this one yet.

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Re: Psi | Psi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42439.msg528806#msg528806
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2012, 09:06:35 am »

Sacrifice one of your aether creatures. The  :aether quanta required to summon it will equal to the number of damages all your enemy creatures will intake +2.

This is what I'm currently suggesting. However, I haven't posted this instead of the previous one is because I don't think everyone quite agrees with this one yet.

One simple psion would do 6 damage to each opponent creature.


Also, could you fill out the table completely? And an image would be easier on the eyes.
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