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Pregnant Dragon | Parturient Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230222#msg230222
« on: December 21, 2010, 05:53:57 pm »
NOTE : Parturient = Pregnant. Good to know so that you can call either (guy) your girlfriend or (girl) yourself parturient and confuse people.

NAME:
Pregnant Dragon
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|5
TEXT:
Targets an elemental dragon. Gains a spawn ability matching the element of that dragon.
NAME:
Parturient Dragon
ELEMENT:
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COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|9
TEXT:
Targets an elemental dragon. Gains a spawn ability matching the element of that dragon.
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NOTES:
- It can target the 12 elemental dragons, ignoring the immortality status; therefore, it can target :aether dragon as well.
- It can only target the dragons on YOUR side of the field, which balances out the overpowered spawn abilities.
- Cannot target itself or other Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon.

- Just like Nymph's Tears, the upgraded status of the targeted dragon matters, not the upgraded status of Pregnant Dragon | Parturient Dragon.

ElementDragonAbility CostAbility
:aetherPhase Dragon :aether :aether Generates a Phase Spider.
:aetherElite Phase Dragon:aether :aether :aether Generates a Phase Recluse.
:airAzure Dragon :air :airGenerates a Wyrm.
:airSky Dragon :air :airGenerates an Elite Wyrm.
:darknessBlack Dragon :darkness :darknessGenerates a Minor Vampire.
:darknessObsidian Dragon :darkness :darkness :darkness :darknessGenerates a Vampire.
:deathBone Dragon :deathGenerates a Flesh Spider.
:deathIvory Dragon :death :deathGenerates a Flesh Recluse
:earthStone Dragon :earth :earthGenerates a Hematite Golem
:earthBasalt Dragon :earth :earth :earth Generates a Steel Golem
:entropyPurple Dragon :entropy :entropy Generates an Abomination
:entropyAmethyst Dragon :entropy Generates an Abomination
:fireCrimson Dragon :fire :fire :fireGenerates a Phoenix
:fireRuby Dragon :fire Generates a Minor Phoenix
:gravityColossal Dragon :gravity :gravityGenerates a Sapphire Charger
:gravityMassive Dragon :gravity :gravity :gravityGenerates an Elite Charger
:lifeEmerald Dragon :life :lifeGenerates a Cockatrice
:lifeJade Dragon :life :life Generates an Elite Cockatrice
:lightGolden Dragon :light :light Generates a Pegasus
:lightLight Dragon :light :light Generates an Elite Pegasus
:timeDevonian Dragon :timeGenerates a Fate Egg
:timeSilurian Dragon :timeGenerates a Fate Egg (Upgraded)
:waterIce Dragon :waterGenerates a Blue Crawler
:waterArctic Dragon :water :waterGenerates an Abyss Crawler
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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230223#msg230223
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2010, 05:55:58 pm »
....I thought you were kidding.

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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230224#msg230224
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2010, 05:58:10 pm »
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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230228#msg230228
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2010, 06:01:39 pm »
Any comments on the cost / stats of the dragon itself?
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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230232#msg230232
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 06:08:39 pm »
Good to know that the children of purple dragon's are abominations.  Now I know not to babysit!

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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230239#msg230239
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 06:17:38 pm »
Needs a huge nerf on the cost. Maybe something like 8-12?

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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230243#msg230243
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 06:20:33 pm »
Needs a huge nerf on the cost. Maybe something like 8-12?
going on the assumption 1 :rainbow = 3 elemental, (1 quantum pillar = 1 elemental pillar) then this is 1.3 elemental quantum, so 8-12 would be like 2.6 - 4 elemental quanta, all i can say is meh, it is probably going to have to be rainbow with cost instead of controled single element

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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230248#msg230248
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 06:28:51 pm »
Interesting.

Ability Value = Value of spawned card (upgrade cost reduction not included) +2 (Spawning constant) -2 (additional turn of delay/requiring additional card) - (0 if cost is 1 quanta, 1 if cost is 2-3 quanta and 2 if cost is 4 quanta)

Currently
ElementDragonAbility CostAbilityAbility Value
:aetherPhase Dragon :aether :aether :aether Generates an Immortal.5
:aetherElite Phase Dragon:aether :aether :aether :aether Generates an Elite Immortal.6
:airAzure Dragon :air :airGenerates a Wyrm.3
:airSky Dragon :air :airGenerates an Elite Wyrm.5
:darknessBlack Dragon :darkness :darknessGenerates a Minor Vampire.2
:darknessObsidian Dragon :darkness :darkness :darkness :darknessGenerates a Vampire.4
:deathBone Dragon :deathGenerates a Flesh Spider.3
:deathIvory Dragon :death :deathGenerates a Flesh Recluse5
:earthStone Dragon :earth :earthGenerates a Hematite Golem3
:earthBasalt Dragon :earth :earthGenerates a Steel Golem7
:entropyPurple Dragon :entropy :entropy Generates an Abomination4
:entropyAmethyst Dragon :entropy Generates an Abomination5
:fireCrimson Dragon :fire :fire :fireGenerates a Phoenix6
:fireRuby Dragon :fire Generates a Minor Phoenix4
:gravityColossal Dragon :gravity :gravityGenerates a Sapphire Charger4
:gravityMassive Dragon :gravity :gravity :gravityGenerates an Elite Charger6
:lifeEmerald Dragon :life :lifeGenerates a Cockatrice2
:lifeJade Dragon :life :life Generates an Elite Cockatrice3
:lightGolden Dragon :light :light Generates a Pegasus3
:lightLight Dragon :light :light Generates an Elite Pegasus4
:timeDevonian Dragon :timeGenerates a Fate Egg3
:timeSilurian Dragon :timeGenerates a Fate Egg (Upgraded)4
:waterIce Dragon :waterGenerates a Blue Crawler3
:waterArctic Dragon :water :waterGenerates an Abyss Crawler6
I would suggest the following. I changed the activation costs and spawn created so the value is 3|4 (with the exception of Gravity which upped is valued at 5 but requires a UP dragon) The result is that the Parturient Dragon will be worth 6|5 elemental quanta (~18|15 other quanta). This 18|15 cost could be split between casting cost and initial activation cost [CC 14|11, AC 4|4].
ElementDragonAbility CostAbilityAbility Value
:aetherPhase Dragon :aether Generates an Phase Spider.3
:aetherElite Phase Dragon:aether :aether :aether :aether Generates a Phase Recluse.4
:airAzure Dragon :air :airGenerates a Wyrm.3
:airSky Dragon :air :air :air :airGenerates an Elite Wyrm.4
:darknessBlack Dragon :darknessGenerates a Minor Vampire.3
:darknessObsidian Dragon :darkness :darkness :darkness :darknessGenerates a Vampire.4
:deathBone Dragon :deathGenerates a Flesh Spider.3
:deathIvory Dragon :death :death :death :deathGenerates a Flesh Recluse4
:earthStone Dragon :earth :earthGenerates a Hematite Golem3
:earthBasalt Dragon :earthGenerates a Hematite Golem4
:entropyPurple Dragon :entropy :entropy :entropy :entropy Generates an Abomination3
:entropyAmethyst Dragon :entropy :entropy Generates an Abomination4
:fireCrimson Dragon :fire :fireGenerates a Minor Phoenix3
:fireRuby Dragon :fire Generates a Minor Phoenix4
:gravityColossal Dragon :gravity :gravity :gravity :gravityGenerates a Sapphire Charger4
:gravityMassive Dragon :gravity :gravity :gravity :gravityGenerates an Elite Charger5
:lifeEmerald Dragon :lifeGenerates a Cockatrice3
:lifeJade Dragon :lifeGenerates an Elite Cockatrice4
:lightGolden Dragon :light :light Generates a Pegasus3
:lightLight Dragon :light :light Generates an Elite Pegasus4
:timeDevonian Dragon :timeGenerates a Fate Egg3
:timeSilurian Dragon :timeGenerates a Fate Egg (Upgraded)4
:waterIce Dragon :waterGenerates an Arctic Squid3
:waterArctic Dragon :waterGenerates an Arctic Octopus4
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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230393#msg230393
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 09:12:11 pm »
Me likes this card.  I agree with Oldtrees changes, with the exception of Ice Squid (Increase the cost to :water :water for both, freeze is a powerful CC effect.)

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Re: Pregnant Dragon | Parturient Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230963#msg230963
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 05:52:37 pm »
Switched Parturient to upgraded since it is an uselessly complicated word.

Increased cost by 1.

Decreased Pregnant (unupgraded) Dragon's HP from 9 to 5 so that it's vulnerable to CCs like thunderbolt.

Changed some of the spawn abilities.

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Re: Pregnant Dragon | Parturient Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg231258#msg231258
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2010, 05:01:47 am »
The changes look better.
As seen with my post above I still disagree strongly about the cost being too cheap and less strongly but still importantly so about the non arbitrary suggested activations costs in my previous post.

However with the HP change of pregnant dragon to 5, the ideal cost of either version of this dragon is 3x the value of the ability. If you use the 3 value version of the skill then 9 :rainbow [3 turns from QP] would be the appropriate cost.
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Re: Pregnant Dragon | Parturient Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg231275#msg231275
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2010, 05:24:14 am »
This is hilarious! I think it's OP though. It's like a indirect renewable fractal. This makes existing spawn abilities like scarab and queen look bad.

"The age of fertility has begun." anyone remember this?

 

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