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Pregnant Dragon | Parturient Dragon
https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230222#msg230222
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December 21, 2010, 05:53:57 pm »
NOTE : Parturient = Pregnant. Good to know so that you can call either (guy) your girlfriend or (girl) yourself parturient and confuse people.
NAME:
Pregnant Dragon
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|5
TEXT:
Targets an elemental dragon. Gains a spawn ability matching the element of that dragon.
NAME:
Parturient Dragon
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|9
TEXT:
Targets an elemental dragon. Gains a spawn ability matching the element of that dragon.
ART:
Zanzarino (NO IT'S NOT COLOSSAL DRAGON)
IDEA:
GirlsGeneration
NOTES:
- It can target the 12 elemental dragons, ignoring the immortality status; therefore, it can target
dragon as well.
- It can only target the dragons on YOUR side of the field, which balances out the overpowered spawn abilities.
- Cannot target itself or other Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon.
- Just like Nymph's Tears, the upgraded status of the targeted dragon matters, not the upgraded status of Pregnant Dragon | Parturient Dragon.
Element
Dragon
Ability Cost
Ability
Phase Dragon
Generates a Phase Spider.
Elite Phase Dragon
Generates a Phase Recluse.
Azure Dragon
Generates a Wyrm.
Sky Dragon
Generates an Elite Wyrm.
Black Dragon
Generates a Minor Vampire.
Obsidian Dragon
Generates a Vampire.
Bone Dragon
Generates a Flesh Spider.
Ivory Dragon
Generates a Flesh Recluse
Stone Dragon
Generates a Hematite Golem
Basalt Dragon
Generates a Steel Golem
Purple Dragon
Generates an Abomination
Amethyst Dragon
Generates an Abomination
Crimson Dragon
Generates a Phoenix
Ruby Dragon
Generates a Minor Phoenix
Colossal Dragon
Generates a Sapphire Charger
Massive Dragon
Generates an Elite Charger
Emerald Dragon
Generates a Cockatrice
Jade Dragon
Generates an Elite Cockatrice
Golden Dragon
Generates a Pegasus
Light Dragon
Generates an Elite Pegasus
Devonian Dragon
Generates a Fate Egg
Silurian Dragon
Generates a Fate Egg (Upgraded)
Ice Dragon
Generates a Blue Crawler
Arctic Dragon
Generates an Abyss Crawler
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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon
https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230223#msg230223
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December 21, 2010, 05:55:58 pm »
....I thought you were kidding.
Also the art is by Fotosynthesis.
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https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230224#msg230224
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December 21, 2010, 05:58:10 pm »
*looks at darkness dragon-* me likies =D
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https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230228#msg230228
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December 21, 2010, 06:01:39 pm »
Any comments on the cost / stats of the dragon itself?
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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon
https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230232#msg230232
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December 21, 2010, 06:08:39 pm »
Good to know that the children of purple dragon's are abominations. Now I know not to babysit!
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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon
https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230239#msg230239
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December 21, 2010, 06:17:38 pm »
Needs a huge nerf on the cost. Maybe something like 8-12?
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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon
https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230243#msg230243
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December 21, 2010, 06:20:33 pm »
Quote from: grindpower on December 21, 2010, 06:17:38 pm
Needs a huge nerf on the cost. Maybe something like 8-12?
going on the assumption 1
= 3 elemental, (1 quantum pillar = 1 elemental pillar) then this is 1.3 elemental quantum, so 8-12 would be like 2.6 - 4 elemental quanta, all i can say is meh, it is probably going to have to be rainbow with cost instead of controled single element
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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon
https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230248#msg230248
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December 21, 2010, 06:28:51 pm »
Interesting.
Ability Value = Value of spawned card (upgrade cost reduction not included) +2 (Spawning constant) -2 (additional turn of delay/requiring additional card) - (0 if cost is 1 quanta, 1 if cost is 2-3 quanta and 2 if cost is 4 quanta)
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Element
Dragon
Ability Cost
Ability
Ability Value
Phase Dragon
Generates an Immortal.
5
Elite Phase Dragon
Generates an Elite Immortal.
6
Azure Dragon
Generates a Wyrm.
3
Sky Dragon
Generates an Elite Wyrm.
5
Black Dragon
Generates a Minor Vampire.
2
Obsidian Dragon
Generates a Vampire.
4
Bone Dragon
Generates a Flesh Spider.
3
Ivory Dragon
Generates a Flesh Recluse
5
Stone Dragon
Generates a Hematite Golem
3
Basalt Dragon
Generates a Steel Golem
7
Purple Dragon
Generates an Abomination
4
Amethyst Dragon
Generates an Abomination
5
Crimson Dragon
Generates a Phoenix
6
Ruby Dragon
Generates a Minor Phoenix
4
Colossal Dragon
Generates a Sapphire Charger
4
Massive Dragon
Generates an Elite Charger
6
Emerald Dragon
Generates a Cockatrice
2
Jade Dragon
Generates an Elite Cockatrice
3
Golden Dragon
Generates a Pegasus
3
Light Dragon
Generates an Elite Pegasus
4
Devonian Dragon
Generates a Fate Egg
3
Silurian Dragon
Generates a Fate Egg (Upgraded)
4
Ice Dragon
Generates a Blue Crawler
3
Arctic Dragon
Generates an Abyss Crawler
6
I would suggest the following. I changed the activation costs and spawn created so the value is 3|4 (with the exception of Gravity which upped is valued at 5 but requires a UP dragon) The result is that the Parturient Dragon will be worth 6|5 elemental quanta (~18|15 other quanta). This 18|15 cost could be split between casting cost and initial activation cost [CC 14|11, AC 4|4].
Element
Dragon
Ability Cost
Ability
Ability Value
Phase Dragon
Generates an Phase Spider.
3
Elite Phase Dragon
Generates a Phase Recluse.
4
Azure Dragon
Generates a Wyrm.
3
Sky Dragon
Generates an Elite Wyrm.
4
Black Dragon
Generates a Minor Vampire.
3
Obsidian Dragon
Generates a Vampire.
4
Bone Dragon
Generates a Flesh Spider.
3
Ivory Dragon
Generates a Flesh Recluse
4
Stone Dragon
Generates a Hematite Golem
3
Basalt Dragon
Generates a Hematite Golem
4
Purple Dragon
Generates an Abomination
3
Amethyst Dragon
Generates an Abomination
4
Crimson Dragon
Generates a Minor Phoenix
3
Ruby Dragon
Generates a Minor Phoenix
4
Colossal Dragon
Generates a Sapphire Charger
4
Massive Dragon
Generates an Elite Charger
5
Emerald Dragon
Generates a Cockatrice
3
Jade Dragon
Generates an Elite Cockatrice
4
Golden Dragon
Generates a Pegasus
3
Light Dragon
Generates an Elite Pegasus
4
Devonian Dragon
Generates a Fate Egg
3
Silurian Dragon
Generates a Fate Egg (Upgraded)
4
Ice Dragon
Generates an Arctic Squid
3
Arctic Dragon
Generates an Arctic Octopus
4
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Re: Parturient Dragon | Pregnant Dragon
https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230393#msg230393
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December 21, 2010, 09:12:11 pm »
Me likes this card. I agree with Oldtrees changes, with the exception of Ice Squid (Increase the cost to
for both, freeze is a powerful CC effect.)
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https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg230963#msg230963
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December 22, 2010, 05:52:37 pm »
Switched Parturient to upgraded since it is an uselessly complicated word.
Increased cost by 1.
Decreased Pregnant (unupgraded) Dragon's HP from 9 to 5 so that it's vulnerable to CCs like thunderbolt.
Changed some of the spawn abilities.
Now for Crucible
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https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg231258#msg231258
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December 23, 2010, 05:01:47 am »
The changes look better.
As seen with my post above I still disagree strongly about the cost being too cheap and less strongly but still importantly so about the non arbitrary suggested activations costs in my previous post.
However with the HP change of pregnant dragon to 5, the ideal cost of either version of this dragon is 3x the value of the ability. If you use the 3 value version of the skill then 9
[3 turns from QP] would be the appropriate cost.
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Re: Pregnant Dragon | Parturient Dragon
https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18064.msg231275#msg231275
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Reply #11 on:
December 23, 2010, 05:24:14 am »
This is hilarious! I think it's OP though. It's like a indirect renewable fractal. This makes existing spawn abilities like scarab and queen look bad.
"The age of fertility has begun." anyone remember this?
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