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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg227248#msg227248
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2010, 11:18:35 am »
And where the hell would you get the fire target from? Would depend on AI a lot, no?

If start with fire to say, fractal the Minor Phoenix and then use a cheap spark (Cremation target) for aether, that'd be balanced.

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Good point. And it raises a question... What about the pillars? Are they considered targets?
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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg227279#msg227279
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2010, 12:49:26 pm »
And where the hell would you get the fire target from? Would depend on AI a lot, no?

If start with fire to say, fractal the Minor Phoenix and then use a cheap spark (Cremation target) for aether, that'd be balanced.

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Good point. And it raises a question... What about the pillars? Are they considered targets?
Quantum Pillar is randomly generated, then?

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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg227668#msg227668
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2010, 10:22:22 pm »
I think this is a wonderful idea.  I hope it becomes a card used in the game.

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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg227867#msg227867
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2010, 02:26:40 am »
Nice idea overall, though I don't see much use for it. Could you give an example of a deck you would use this in?
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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg227974#msg227974
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2010, 04:33:06 am »
I would use it as quanta fixing if it generated more quanta in some way (ie it makes a pillar of whatever element you target), but as it is, I don't think I would use it.

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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg230182#msg230182
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2010, 04:50:22 pm »
Edited so that it doesn't look underpowered. :D
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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg230201#msg230201
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2010, 05:23:11 pm »
It could be used in rainbows. They need the initial :entropy quanta to get started, but then you could switch your mark around to get quanta of a specific element. I could see it being useful in CCYB as you could versatalize a card you want to fractal, allowing you to play out more of them than just QT's could generate. Poor example, but you get the idea.
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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg230204#msg230204
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2010, 05:32:43 pm »
This card acts like a ?-Pillar, it's like having a card in your hand that allows you to lay down any type of pillar you wish.  But they do not stack, and many decks rely on mark alone for a certain quantum type.  I can see this being used in combination with pendulums to "burst" a type of quanta you're short on.  Or to make up for bad luck drawing a certain type of pillar in a duo/trio deck.

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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg230211#msg230211
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2010, 05:39:22 pm »
This would be pretty effective in a specially-designed mindgate deck. Could be very interesting.

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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg230979#msg230979
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2010, 06:26:15 pm »
I would probably use this 6x in most of my decks. It's very good for versatile quanta generation. Although... a shard? That makes me unhappy. Rare + 1500  :electrum to use it... it's much...
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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg231962#msg231962
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2010, 03:17:32 am »
I would probably use this 6x in most of my decks. It's very good for versatile quanta generation. Although... a shard? That makes me unhappy. Rare + 1500  :electrum to use it... it's much...
Can't really fit it into a specific element, can you?
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Re: Shard | Shard of Versatility https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17660.msg232076#msg232076
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2010, 07:22:54 am »
Can't really fit it into a specific element, can you?
What about another kind of card? Untyped.

Quantum Machine | Quantum Engine
Cost: 2 | 2
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Change your Mark to target's type and gain a Pillar | Tower of that element.

This way you keep the mechanics, you keep the difference of it being upped/unupped (since upped gains a Tower), and you can still use it unupped. Changing one's Mark is not (as has been suggested) as good as having out a pillar of a different element - although it can be more versatile. So this costing 2 quanta to gain a pillar and change the Mark doesn't seem overpowered at all, even of an unupped card...
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